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Complete list of BPMN 2.0 implementations?

 
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Hi,

Is there a list of available open source/commercial BPMN 2.0 implementations? I work for IBM and I'd like to know how far IBM is with their Lombardi/BPM V8 and BPMN 2.0. Have you ever had a chance to work with the product? Which one would you recommend to start with?

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There is this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Business_Process_Modeling_Notation_tools

There is a list of BPMN implementers here:

http://www.bpmn.org

No, I have never worked with Lombardi/BPM V8. There are a few really good BPMN 2 tools. My favorite is the Cameo Business Modeller:

http://www.nomagic.com/products/cameo-business-modeler.html
 
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Hi,

Is the Cameo Business Modeller only a modeller or a runtime environment as well? I've heard a lot of good opinions on the products from No Magic, so I'm not surprised to hear it again.

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Hi Jacek,

Cameo Business Modeler standalone is not a runtime environment. If you buy it as a plug-in for MagicDraw UML, then you get runtime, code generation etc. etc. BPMN on it's own is OK, but it is very incomplete - it only models processes - you can't model static semantics such as classes, components and so on. So if you want a complete modelling solution, you need BPMN + UML and the best way to get that is as an integrated tool. I have never seen the other approach, where there are separate BPMN and UML toolsets, work in practice. This is another reason I like Cameo - you can start standalone, and very low cost, and then if you need UML, you can seamlessly move to MagicDraw with the Cameo plug-in. It's a great strategy.
 
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Hi Jim,

That's why I like Lombardi/BPM where I can design executable BPMN2 models and run them with a single click. I've heard there're products where you model first and you need to export the model to deploy it onto a runtime environment which is often a separate product from another company. I think ARIS sells such a product.

Disclaimer: Please note that I work for IBM and after 6 years I found myself enjoying most WebSphere products

Jacek
 
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Roubroo BPMS provides a native BPMN 2.0 process modeler and a native BPMN 2.0 engine that supports execution semantics. Roubroo supports ad-hoc processes with its powerful token flow semantics.
 
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