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Recommend to take "Developing Web Services Using Java Technology"

Himai Minh
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Hello,
I am thinking of taking web services expert certification exam.
Should I take the "Developing Web Services Using Java Technology" from Oracle?
I prefer to read the RMH book because the course is too expensive.
Thanks in advance.
velmurugan velayutham
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Don't take training from Oracle . Its too expensive. Instead you can prepare by yourself. That is what i am doing right now. I am also a certified(OCJP 1.6) programmer, looking to get OCEWSD 6 Exam. I am reading Java web services up and running and JavaEE 6 tutorial. I think i will take minimum 2 month to complete reading all the topics and make myself comfortable in all the topics. Then i will try to solve mocks for a month. So end of march i have planned to take the exam... Pray for me to get this another milestone. I hope you also join with me to complete your extreme adventure.
Ulf Dittmer
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I advise against the RMH book. Not because it's not good (it is, it was the most comprehensive overview of Java WS in its time), but because it's mostly about things that are no longer en vogue (SOAP, WSDL, UDDI, JAX-PRC etc.). Plus, it predates REST.

If you really want to get into Java WS, get a book that covers JAX-WS and, especially, JAX-RS. RESTful WS are much easier to get going than SOAP WS.


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Mikalai Zaikin
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Ulf Dittmer wrote:I advise against the RMH book. Not because it's not good (it is, it was the most comprehensive overview of Java WS in its time), but because it's mostly about things that are no longer en vogue (SOAP, WSDL, UDDI, JAX-PRC etc.). Plus, it predates REST.

If you really want to get into Java WS, get a book that covers JAX-WS and, especially, JAX-RS. RESTful WS are much easier to get going than SOAP WS.


For WSD 6 exam, and WSD 5 exam, the RMH book is still valuable. I can't agree with your statement.

If we are talking only about real working experience, I partially (50%) agree with you. But REST is not a silver bullet. JAW-WS still used by enterprises.

Sidenote: the RMH book was published in 2003, and it's still valuable, not every book on programming can live so long (almost 10 years !).

Best regards,
MZ


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Ulf Dittmer
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Mikalai Zaikin wrote:If we are talking only about real working experience, I partially (50%) agree with you. But REST is not a silver bullet. JAW-WS still used by enterprises.

Which is why I advise to learn both. Not sure what you mean by "50%".
Mikalai Zaikin
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Ulf Dittmer wrote:
Mikalai Zaikin wrote:If we are talking only about real working experience, I partially (50%) agree with you. But REST is not a silver bullet. JAW-WS still used by enterprises.

Which is why I advise to learn both. Not sure what you mean by "50%".




My bad, did not notice you recommend JAX-WS along with JAX-RS.

I agree 100% with your statement that one should learn today both JAX-WS and JAX-RS.

And I agree that JAX-RPC part, or JAXR, or UDDI sections of the RMH book are obsolete and should be avoided.

Best regards,
MZ
Himai Minh
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Thanks. So, Java Web Service Up and Running is the one I should read first. But for RMH I should skip some chapters.
What else good reference book I should have?
shai ban
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Oreilly's "Java web services up and running" and RMH both don't cover JAX-RS!

Any idea which topics needs to cover for exam on JAX-RS and from where? Any particular book with particular chapters. I have had enough JAX-WS and its turn for JAX-RS. I am planning to give exam in end of March.

Please advise.

Thanks a lot.
Mikalai Zaikin
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shai ban wrote:

Any idea which topics needs to cover for exam on JAX-RS and from where? Any particular book with particular chapters.


I suggest you Jersey online documentation. It's pretty good.

Best regards,
MZ
Himai Minh
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I checked on amazon's page and I found there is a good book Restful Java by Oreilly.
But it was published in 2009. I am not sure if this book will help the exam.
shai ban
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Mikalai Zaikin wrote:
shai ban wrote:

Any idea which topics needs to cover for exam on JAX-RS and from where? Any particular book with particular chapters.


I suggest you Jersey online documentation. It's pretty good.

Best regards,
MZ


Won't it be too much for the exam? I thought JAX-WS is the main topic in exam but one should know about JAX-RS too. Do we need to complete the entire book/documentation for JAX-RS?

Thanks.
Mikalai Zaikin
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shai ban wrote:
Mikalai Zaikin wrote:
shai ban wrote:

Any idea which topics needs to cover for exam on JAX-RS and from where? Any particular book with particular chapters.


I suggest you Jersey online documentation. It's pretty good.

Best regards,
MZ


Won't it be too much for the exam? I thought JAX-WS is the main topic in exam but one should know about JAX-RS too. Do we need to complete the entire book/documentation for JAX-RS?

Thanks.


Read chapters 1...5 from here - should be sufficient.

Do you consider 33 pages "too much" ?
shai ban
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Mikalai Zaikin wrote:

Read chapters 1...5 from here - should be sufficient.

Do you consider 33 pages "too much" ?


Only 33! It is fine. My bad, html format didn't give idea about pages.

Thanks.
 
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