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SCJP practice - Which Eclipse IDE to use?

 
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Should I practice programs using IDE or not?

For the preparation of SCJP, which IDE would be suitable?

Eclipse/Netbeans?

Thanks
 
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Neo,

Learning to code without an IDE is a good exercise & all should know how to write code in a text editor & build their apps from the command line. Learning to code with the absolute basics is a must if you want to know the inner workings of any language. My advice, pickup a good text editor(Notepad, TextEdit, TextPad, EditPlus) & hit the command line.

As far as IDE's go, eclipse & netbeans, both are good & I use both.

HTH
Ashish Hareet
[ June 17, 2008: Message edited by: Ashish Hareet ]
 
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I too suggest not to use IDE's in the intial stages out of my experience. When I was learning java, I used IDE and found it fascinating . IDE will do everything for you and I depended on it to large extent.
So first learn java in a simple text editor. Later for complex situations one can for IDE.
 
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Originally posted by Neo Chap:
Should I practice programs using IDE or not? ...


Definitely not.

IDEs can hide important details by doing too much for you.
 
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Hi Neo Chap welcome to Javaranch,
although its recommended that you dont use an IDE atleast for now. if you still insist on using one, I would recommend Netbeans over Eclipse.



Hope this helps
 
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Hi Neo Chap,

First off, is that your real name? If not, please change your display name - thanks!

Second, I can tell you that I agree with everything everyone has said about not using an IDE to study for the SCJP. I can add that when we created the exam none of used an IDE. So all of the questions you'll find on the exam were created and tested from the command line. Additionally, several of the objectives are focused specifically on using java and javac from the command line.

hth,

Bert
 
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For SCJP use command line tools and use note pad that wiil give you deep working of java
 
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I reccomend you use the JDK from the command line.
 
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Thanks.. i was using Eclipse so long.. now i ll switch over to command line.. Actually i had always found it easier to work with IDEs..
 
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Parameswaran V V please check your private messages for an important administrative matter.

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Once you have learned Java then start using IDEs. I would recommend NetBeans
 
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Originally posted by Parameswaran V V:
... Actually i had always found it easier to work with IDEs..


That's good, because that's what IDEs are for. But the easiest way to write code is not necessarily the best way to prepare for the SCJP exam.
 
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Thank you everyone for your valuable suggestions.
 
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To understand a program,one should use debugger.As command line debugger(jdb) is not that good to use,IDE becomes a better choice.I am using Eclipse at the moment.
 
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Initially start using the javac & java commands to compile your programs.. once you understand these, start using an IDE, so that you can cruise through the concepts a little faster

What do you say people?
 
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"Parameswaran",
Please check your private messages.
-Ben
 
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"Neo Chap",
Would you mind answering Bert's question about you're name?
If you'd rather answer off air, feel free to send me private message.

Thanks,
-Ben
 
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