JBuilder and VisualAge

[SUDA VIJAYA KUMAR]

Hi all,
Could any body tell me
Wether it is better to use JBUILDER OR VISUAL AGE as my IDE.
waiting for your reply.
Thanks in advance
VIJAY

[a glover]

Having used both and been a long time visual age advocate, I'd still have to say use Jbuilder as it is much more advanced in terms of keeping up with Java. Besides, visual age is being phased out in favor of a new open platform.

[Kyle Brown]

Well, that's a bit like throwing the baby out with the bath water... I'd personally say you might want to try the new open platform (WebSphere Studio Application Developer).
The moral of the story is -- if you are developing for EJB 1.0 (Websphere 3.5) you certainly want to use VisualAge. If you're developing for EJB 1.1 (WebSphere 4.0) you want to use the new WebSphere Studio Application Developer.
BTW, I believe (do NOT quote me on this -- talk to your IBM rep -- THEY ARE THE FINAL AUTHORITY ON THIS) if you purchase VisualAge Enterprise Edition 4.0, WSAD may be an automatic upgrade...
Kyle
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[Jason Menard]

Of course not everyone uses Websphere so an IDE like JBuilder that can install its EJBs to most of the app servers automatically is still a fine choice.
You mean you're not supposed to be throwing out the baby with the bathwater?

[Kyle Brown]

Actually, VisualAge works fine with WebLogic and other IDE's too, as does WSAD...
Kyle
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Author of Enterprise Java (tm) Programming with IBM Websphere
See my homepage at http://members.aol.com/kgb1001001 for other WebSphere information.

[Kishore Dandu]

Kyle,
What is your point on "Visual Age works fine with other IDE's too".
If you have other IDE why do you even bother about using another IDE.
Kishore.

[Kyle Brown]

That was a missspelling, as should have been obvious from the context (WebLogic is not an IDE). I meant to say "App server" instead of IDE.
Kyle
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Author of Enterprise Java (tm) Programming with IBM Websphere
See my homepage at http://members.aol.com/kgb1001001 for other WebSphere information.

[Sylvester Saloon]

We have JBuilder at the office -- but I don't use it. Between JBuilder and notepad -- i'd probably choose notepad.
My tools are Visual Age and JCreator. I have downloaded the Websphere ide -- but I still have to find time to play with it. I just hope IBM does not make it look like JBuilder.

[Dale DeMott]

Well, one thing I can say is that if you do choose to use an IDE, the debuggers help you out quite a bit. In VAJ, I honestly can say that JSP tracing ability has been a very large help. Not sure what JBuilder supports in this. It may have the same thing.
Dale

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[Jes Sie]

Originally posted by SUDA VIJAYA KUMAR:
Hi all,
Could any body tell me
Wether it is better to use JBUILDER OR VISUAL AGE as my IDE.
waiting for your reply.
Thanks in advance
VIJAY

I'm not sure what you use the IDE for. If it's not for EJB dev/deployment purposes,...then I strongly believe JBuilder shines better than VA. I have used both. VA is slow and it always forces you to view/save in a method view alone. The storage of its JAVA source are propreitaory as opposed to standard text based.
If you're dealing with lotsa EJB, well, I have not much exp on these IDEs but I would recommend Together Control Center 5.5.

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