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Hi,

java newbie here...

can someone please tell which is better..ecclipse or netBeans? By better, i think i mean, which is easier to learn and use.

Also being new to the Java, do you think using an IDE would prevent me getting more in depth understanding of the language?
 
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Kwame,
At the very beginning, I think you are better off using the command line. Once you have written a few small programs and have a grasp of the basics is a good time to start using an IDE.

Eclipse and NetBeans are of similar complexity to learn and use. To the best of my knowledge, Eclipse has more plugins and a bigger development community.
 
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Thanks a bunch, Jeanne!
I'm just a Java hobbyist, and so far i've been able to write a small, barely functional calculator program! (was a serious pain, figuring out those runtime errors)
 
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Eclipse is cool man, try it out, besides its like an industry standard.
 
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Eclipse by far. Used to be that netbeans had better web app support, but i'm not sure about that even anymore.
 
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Not again - this argument is a weekly event.

I like vim - but only because i started in the dark ages (green screens), and had to learn it. Sometimes I spoil myself and use Eclipse, or even Rose or Posiedon.
 
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depends on what you are looking for - I personally like eclipse more but the IDE itself is not that well polished and the debugger still has some bugs.
net beans is more polished and seems to have a better quality control process.

The other point is the GUI designer - the VE for eclipse is not as strong as NB GUI layout (people swear by it). Then again NB has no support for SWT.
Eclipse is strong because it has plugins - that will extend the ide to do a lot of cool stuff - database exploration,strong web app and misc. application server support - Jboss has its own plug in which is very stable. NB looses out there.
I use eclipse not only for java but also for perl and PHP - althought the plug ins are buggy.

What I like most about eclipse is the coding - its got a very good editor. Java comments, automatic code fillers and also code formatting is quick and addictive - I cant use anything but eclipse now.
 
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Kwame I was just about to ask this exact question. I just tried to write a program in NetBeans after using Notepad for several weeks (that should tell you the complexitiy I'm working at). I have to say I prefer Notepad as its not as cluttered and using the command line I can get what I need to get done quickly without having to think or browse the menu bar. Plus I find the creation of projects cluttered when right now I'm usually working with single files...I don't see the point of packages right now.

The problem arises in when I'm trying to get a job to code java. Not only am I rusty but IDE's are the standard in industry and when I say I use Notepad I get looks of "you have to be kidding me".

I currently have an old version of Eclipse at home that I intend to start using more since I guess I have to.
 
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