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Originally posted by Ernest Friedman-Hill:
I suspect that, sadly, the most used process is still "none."
guess, large firms, like IBM, SUN, etc, may still have the stardard guidelines on the process, however, the rest may not.
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In other words, neither the management nor the developers try to avoid the waterfall...Then in reality what happens is that when the design phase is over...
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Originally posted by friso dejonge:
true, but have you seen it any other way ?
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Jane, now that you did bring IFM into every conversation ...Originally posted by Jane Cleland-Huang:
I was trying to be a little sensitive and NOT try to bring IFM into every conversation
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The problem I see with Throughput Accounting is that it takes more CPU cycles to grasp than a typical manager has to spare that it easily gets the shoulder simply because the audience doesn't understand the suggested approach.
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Originally posted by Kishore Dandu:
But,many of their developers do it because they had to follow corporate dictate rather than project/people's choice.
The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny - it is the light that guides your way. - Heraclitus
Originally posted by Ilja Preuss:
Where do you have this from?
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Originally posted by Jane Cleland-Huang:
Well I have to admit that I haven't read this book. Could you give a brief synopsis?
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It might be the late hours in Finland, but what are you saying here? That the time crunch prevents from doing X or forces to do X?Originally posted by Kishore Dandu:
I have seen many other projects where there is time crunch to go the way of iterative approach and assiging difficult tasks to experts and easier ones to beginners etc.
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Originally posted by Kishore Dandu:
They are just doing it because of their senior VPs dictate. They say, they would prefer a mix of XP and UP depending on customer and other resources at hand (since they have projects that last different time frames).
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Originally posted by Kishore Dandu:
Well, I have it from some friends working in XP environment in a particular company. They are just doing it because of their senior VPs dictate.
They say, they would prefer a mix of XP and UP depending on customer and other resources at hand(since they have projects that last different time frames).
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Tom Hennigan<P>Sun Certified Java 2 Platform Programmer
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Originally posted by Tom Hennigan:
SDL (Software Development Lifecucle), combined with some OOAD, some UML diagrams, and some RAD (prototypes) seems to be most common in my limited experience. Iterative process has goods points in theory, but many veterans "powers-that-be" that is "managers and directors" cling to old ways.
UML Distilled points out well the combo-approaches commonly used. Newer IT departments (managers, too) try to include more modern design processes. In time, RUP, UP, Agile model will replace RAD, SDL, and combos, I think.
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