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Smallest useful Vista drive size?

 
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My new computer just arrived. It has Vista Installed, and I am opting to dual-boot rather than wipe it and have 100% Ubuntu.

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on a 200Gb drive with 4Gb RAM, what is the smallest I can reasonably shrink a windows partition that will be barely used? I'm hoping 40Gb or less, but I'm still doing the initial boot and config so I'm not sure on the current drive usage.
[ September 01, 2008: Message edited by: David O'Meara ]
 
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Freshly installed, Vista takes up around 20-25 GB drive space. If you make the Vista partition 30-40 GB, Vista will fit, but you won't have a lot of space left to install more software.
 
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I had a laptop last year with only 40GB hard drive and I formatted it with 10GB=Windows XP and 30GB=Fedora. That worked nicely . . . until the hard drive packed in
 
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But XP isn't Vista, Mr Ritchie
Dell created 3 partitions, I can delete the other two then Vista will allow a resize to just under half the 200 Gb. I'm sure Linux can hit it harder, as it is only reporting 20Gb of the 97Gb being used.
 
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You can probably find a partitioning utility (eg on Minipe try http colon slash slash minipe dot org) which will compress that partition before you let linux near it.

And I hadn't realised Vista was so much greedier for space than XP.
 
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I tried downloading MiniPE and found to my horror it is password-protected and the website doesn't say where you can get the password from.
 
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For shame!
Ubuntu can boot from the CD (or DVD in my case) and lets you run GParted. My biggest mistake was forgetting to do a clean shutdown on Vista before attempting the resize. It only took me an afternoon of Vista to get tired of it again.
 
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Originally posted by David O'Meara:
It only took me an afternoon of Vista to get tired of it again



It never takes me that long to tire of Windows!
 
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Good news!
I shrunk Vista to 40Gb and now it won't start
 
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Shrink it to 40kB and be done with it.

Actually I had similar problems this year with Ubuntu and Windows; before my hard drive packed in and I changed to OpenSUSE I couldn't boot Windows on the laptop. I could boot Fedora and Windows together, but when I had Ubuntu on it I could only boot Ubuntu.
 
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I have Media Direct too, and I believe my mistake was in deleting that partition too without being aware what it was.
From other sources, it appears Vista will only allow itself to be shrunk to 50% of the available drive, and that Media Direct needs to be installed before the windows OS.

Live and learn.
 
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I have a Dell XPS M1530 laptop, which came with Windows Vista and ofcourse Dell Media Direct. Out of the box, the laptop came with three partitions, if I remember correctly: a very small (100 MB or so) partition with diagnostic utilities, a Windows Vista partition and a Dell Media Direct partition.

I deleted the Vista and Media Direct partitions (and left the diagnostics alone), then installed Windows Vista on a 120 GB partition, and then Ubuntu on the rest (150 GB for Ubuntu and a few GB for a Linux swap partition).

With Ubuntu's bootloader GRUB I can choose to boot to Ubuntu, Windows Vista or the diagnostics utility.

When I press the Media Direct button on the laptop, it boots to Ubuntu (and displays a messed up Media Direct logo through the boot screen...).

Media Direct is a gimmick, in my opinion it wasn't worth keeping it - but if you do want to keep it, then you must indeed install Media Direct first (boot from the Media Direct CD and let its installation program set up the partitions correctly).
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Originally posted by Jesper Young:
if you do want to keep it, then you must indeed install Media Direct first (boot from the Media Direct CD and let its installation program set up the partitions correctly).



This is the bit I can't get right, and as it needs to happen before the OS install and doesn't complete till after, it is a little time consuming. I'm only interested for the Digital TV stuff, but I may turn my efforts to MythTV and see if it will manage the tuner instead...
 
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