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Chris Ben
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Hi everyone,
I got certified on Fri. and I would like to thank all the people who helped me, not only by replying to my posts, but also by clearing others's doubts.
I think the best way for me to say thanks is to share my experience about SCJP exam here.
The only discussion group I joined is javaranch. I know there may be more good sites, but it is the best place for me to clear any doubts in java, not just for exam. I checked the topics in the current page. It is amazing to find that I could have scored higher if I just have had gone through all the CURRENT discussions carefully. Other sites I would like to suggest is Marcus' page and maha's exam list. In fact, they are all I know.
Participating actively and reading posts carefully in this site will surely be helpful!
The only book I read is RHE. One time on old version, one time on the new version(2000). The new one is better. THe new final exam and three bonus exams are excellent! However, I believe you can pass if you just read any one of the books that others recommend. For myself, I think RHE COULD garantee >61% if you REALLY understand the book and the explanation to every question they give you. (though many people, as me, ususally do not really understand it even after you think you do . Read it (or any other book you have) three times beofer taking the exam, my suggestion!)
I started my first mock exam last Sun. To encourage you, I list the scores of all mock tests I have taken :
Sun RHE final ~50% JQ+ 1 ~40%
Mon JQ+ 2 ~40% Jammi ~65%
Tues JQ+ 3 ~50% RHE Bonus 1 ~70%
Wed. Marcus 1 ~80% (so frustrated, decide to try Marcus and decide not to cancel the exam at the end.)
JQ+ 4 ~50%
Thurs. Marcus 2 ~80% JQ+ 5 40%
Fri. 2 hrs before the exam, tried RHE 2 first 25 questions 15/25 ( ).
(I finished every mock exam in about 1 hr. no double check.)
About JQ+: it is a wonderful software!
My JQ+ is the old one. I have thought to buy a new one on Wed, but I dislike the trial version because they gave the # of correct answers for each question, which makes it easier. However, it is tough and very informative. I wish I started to use it earlier, not for exam, but for reinforing my knowledge in Java. Unfortunately, for the OLD one, it was very agitaing to find even a single error in the answer, after you got only 40% the day before the exam.
I am pretty busy, so one week intensive work is the most I can afford. However, I found this site at the beginning of this year and already started to clear my questions in reading even before the mocks.
My final score is almost same as Marcus ( i did not try 3 because I have no time and Marcus himself said its format is not quite similar to the real exam). Anyway, great job, Marcus! I felt the real exam is very easy, unlike the old JQ+, no question make me totally lost. However, it is tricky (otherwise, I should get >95% )! I have been lost in one "simple" question and thought Sun made a mistake, until I run the real program at home (how stupid I am >-( ! ). I think the exam is tougher than Marcus actually, but Marcus give no information about the # of right answers, so that is a balance. Jammi's exam is excellent, too. However, it is hard to retrieve a specific question so it makes it harder for me to review.
In addition, I tried Sandeep's selftest on String (http://www.tipsmart.com/javacert/selfreview/objequiv.htm ) the day before my exam. Thank God! I got so many questions String related and I got 100% in java.lang! BTW, I think you do NOT need "" when you fill your answer. For example, you want fill result as the answer, just fill it as it is.
At the end, any advices I gave are not valid for the people who want to score >90%. But I think I could probably reach it if I have another three weeks and have gone through all exams I have taken two times (include the rest of JQ+, RHE bonus 2&3 and Marcus 3). Everything, almost, is in them!
Hope it is helpful! Thanks again and I am expecting to learn more from you guys in the future.
Have a good weekend
Chris
 
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Congratulations, Chris. Thanks for your comments. We have made the changes about showing the no. of correct answers according to the new SCJP2 pattern. Yes, that makes it a little easier but so is the actual exam.
Best Of Luck,
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shabbir zakir
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Congrats Chiris. how much percentage you got in the exam
 
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Congrats Chiris. how much percentage you got in the exam
 
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Congratulation Chris
I'm going to move this over to the Certification Results forum.
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denish mehta
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HI chris
CONGRATS ON SUCCESS.
1)PERHAPS U WOULD BE KIND ENOUGH TO TELL THAT IS IT NECESSARY TO CRAM "JLS" IF U GAVE GOOD KNOWLEDGE OF KAM ANDD RHE?? TO PASS THE SCJP.
2) WERE U ALREADY A JAVA OR C++ PROGRAMMER ??
3) WHAT IS THE URL OF JQ (ANY BODY)??
REGARDS
DENISH
[This message has been edited by denish mehta (edited March 11, 2001).]
 
Paul Anilprem
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Denish, you can get JQPlus from http://www.enthuware.com/jqplus
-Paul.
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well, about my score: 79.6610169%
about my experience, really not much. check some questions that I have asked earlier, that may be the best way for u to evaluate my previous experience.
JLS is cool! But reading JLS line by line is suffering for me. I read it only after some experts point out a specific part related to my question or I want to find some specific information. Usually, that is the most exciting part for me. Definitely, if you can really understand jLS, u do not need any books .
In fact, I have told u almost all resources I have ever used, probably missed one or two 10-30 questions mocks, which were finished after 1am sometime as snacks last week and I forgot the names.
The problem is that you never know how well you understand the book you read. So, just try Marcus the week before the exam, set ur time as 60-90 minutes, if you get a score far from your expectation, you'd better cancel your exam. In addition, I think the toughness of the exams may vary. It is always better off to finish as many mocks and books as possible, but that depends on ur time and your target.
For me, there is so much in java, i just want to move up as fast as I can.
hope it is helpful
good luck
Chris
 
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sorry. i do forget one IMPORTANT part, that is JAVA API and javac. Download JAVA API and read it as a picture and link what you read from the book to that picture. That is important. I know my wording is ambiguous, but I really cannot find better expression to illustrate my points.
 
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