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Tony Collier
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After over 6 months of studying I failed (badly).
I read Java Certifiction Roberts,Heller,Ernest (orginal Version).
Worked through the examples, took pratice exames.
Read 1/3 of Mughal, Rasmussen. Wrote some of my own basic programs, and still I failed. Lowest score ever posted 42%
There were constructs on the exam I can not find in my study guides. For example.
for ( ; ;){
doSmething...
...
}
I know how to use a for loop but what does ( ; ;) mean ?
I know a semicolen alone on a line is an empty expression
and will compile.
Also the test asked me to select methods that were ok for an interface.
I though an interface could only have abstract methods, but in the answers I had to select 2 of the provided methods and only one of them were abstract. I give up. no Java for me.
But would like to know what the for ( ; ;) is. I guessed this was an unending for loop. Like while(true). Just never seen it until the exam.
 
Jim Petersen
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Tony
I'm sorry to hear this. Don't let it beat you. Take a break and come back and kick it. As you'll see from this week's posts here a few failed the first time round and did it the second time.
See it as part of the learning curve as it does not matter how many time you sit and your pass mark. Its only the pride/confidence that gets a bit of a dent...
btw ( ; ; ) (aka the crab) is an unending loop - Its in MR pp 145 looks like you got that one anyway
All the best - Jim
 
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Sorry Tony. But don't give up, u'll find a few days ago one failed with 52% first time and got 93% second time. So keep it up.
for( ; ; ) is called crab. Crab is such an infinite loop which is considered as a logical error in ur program.
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Dave Vick
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Tony
Sorry to hear you didn't do so well but dont let it get you down. There are several people that I know of that have posted here that failed 2 or more times before finally passing. With a little more work and some concentration on your weak areas you'll dramatically improve your score!!
Did your try any of the mock exams? JQ+ is highly recommended, as well as Marcus' mocks. Also, in the programmers cert forum they are giving away copies of the JWhiz exams this week. Head on over there and start asking questions (or better yet, answering them) and maybe you'll win a copy.
Best of luck

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Jyotsna Clarkin
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Sorry to hear this, Tony, but don't give up.
Work through Mughal & Rasmussen completely.
As Dave mentioned, Marcus Green's site is excellent - both the tutorials and the mocks.
Do you have Velmurugan's notes? - good for reviewing topics.
Good Luck.
regards,
Jyotsna

[This message has been edited by Jyotsna Clarkin (edited October 09, 2001).]
 
Padmaja Balaji
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Sorry to hear this but this is only an indicator to concentrate more on your weak areas. Take it in the spirit and you will do it the next time with a high score. Cheer Up!
Hard work will never go waste.
Padmaja
 
james hoskins
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hey tony,
sorry to hear about the exam, i can only repeat what others have said and encourage you to take heart in the fact that others have failed and then come back stronger.
have a go at the whole mughal book, going over the questions until you get most of them right. they are harder than the questions in the exam i think. when you score well on those go through marcus green's study notes and then take his mock exams.
the next time you do the test you'll pass with flying colours.
kind regards,
james
 
Vinoo Varghese
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Hi Tony,
Don't despair.Things will work out fine.
Just remember:FAILURE IS A STEPPING STONE TO SUCCESS!!!
 
Vinoo Varghese
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Hey Tony,
Don't lose hope...Always believe in urself.Come on,u can do it...
JUST REMEMBER : FAILURE IS THE STEPPING STONE TO SUCCESS.
REGARDS,
VINOO.
 
Johannes de Jong
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Lowest score ever posted 42%
Somehow I doubt that is the lowest result obtained for the exam though. Most people , like investers , dont post their failures here. I respect your guts for doing that.
Remember Java aint easy.
Hope to see you pass result here soon.
 
Manasvi Sharmaa
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Hi buddy,
No I am not sorry to hear about the results as results are no parameters !!
The other day I was reading this mail that Sheriffs can also fail !!. And dont go by results . They are a mere indicator of things .
Try to orient yourself from another angle . Whats the point of scoring a pass when ur not confident of ur own knowledge . There's always a very thin line which separates success from failure . If a guy gets 61% does it prove that he is better than the guy who could score only 60 %?
On the other hand try to ask urself a q? Are u confidnet of the language ? Are u confident about the logic ? If not start from them . Dont even go for RHE / Mughal . Start with Patrick Naughton . Will u believe it I studied and understood the complete concept of methods of Applets from PN despite knowing that they werent amongst the objectives only because I was intrigued about them and wanted to clear my basics .
Go step by step and as Padmaja has stated -' Hard work never goes waste'
Take up the challenge and prepare for another posting on the Forum !!!
Best Wishes
Manasvi Sharma
 
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The other day I was reading this mail that Sheriffs can also fail !!. And dont go by results . They are a mere indicator of things .
Try to orient yourself from another angle . Whats the point of scoring a pass when ur not confident of ur own knowledge . There's always a very thin line which separates success from failure . If a guy gets 61% does it prove that he is better than the guy who could score only 60 %?

Exxxxxxxxactly!!! How true!!!
Never mind. Learn the language well, download Java tutorial from Sun, it's free, exhaustive and is *really* written pretty well. In fact, first let the goal be understanding why's and how's of the language, be comfortable with it. Do lots of code. Don't bother mocks initially. Give yourself enough time and I am sure that test will not be a problem. Don't let it discourage you.
All the best,
- Manish
p.s Manasvi, It's really nice to see you posting here, though you didn't respond to my message, it's heartening to see that you really believe what I said. You really have a lot to share and you do say it very well.
 
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