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93% -- but so what?

 
Jim Z Wang
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I passed the SCJP test this AM with a score of 93%. But what does it mean? The test seems to focus on trivia that can be answered in seconds if the Sun Javadocs are available, and much of the test requires that you memorize those details.
IMHO, years of real-world Java programming experience doesn't necessarily put you in a better position than a candidate who has never written a program longer than 50 lines. In fact, if you don't practice writing many little programs to test ideas, you'll be at a disadvantage.
So how much relevance does the SCJP certification have to a person's ability to write a real Java program? I submit that the answer is "not much", i.e. people who have the certificate may still write Fortran-like code (but in Java).
I apologize for sounding somewhat cynical about the SJCP and I certainly don't want to pooh-pooh the many hours of study and dedication that earning this certificate requires. But I think that one of the greatest benefits of the certificate (to an employer) is the proof that you have the determination, tenacity, and patience to set yourself a goal and then achieve it. In comparison, the "proof" of Java proficiency is rather marginal. Again, IMHO.
What do other readers think? Are you a better Java programmer because you know by heart the type of the getSource() method, or the order of the arguments to the GridLayout constructor?
Jim Wang (SCJP)
 
Mike Beyersdorf
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Jim,
In case you missed it, we had a pretty busy thread on this topic below. I couldn't agree with you more. Anyone who wants to memorize method arguments is welcome to it... but I will use an IDE with automatic code completion. I think I had over a dozen questions on File IO ... seemed a curious way to weight a 59 question test. JMO.
Mike
 
Vikrama Sanjeeva
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Superb score Jim .Well, u have spent a good time analysing SCJP,but i at this stage would like u to discuss some objectives in Exam.Specially about Threads,IO & other topics which u think are most important for a candidate preparing for Exam.It would be more better if u list the mocks which u took.Any technical advice from 93%SCJP is wellcome
Bye.
Viki.
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Reda Mokrane
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Congratulations!!!

Reda
 
ktsang
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Actually I am quite agree with Jim (I got 96%). But the certificate may tell my future boss that I am a hardworking, dedicated guy. Next stage, Maybe I'll take the Architect exam.
 
Fei Ng
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talking about memorize those details?? take a look at the SCWD exam.

great job!
 
Ashik Uzzaman
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Congrats Jim for a nice score!
But i differ in the sense that SCJP exam should be rebuilt to distinguuish between entry-level and experienced programmer.
I was an entry-level programmer and was benefitted by this exam to understand the programming logic,techniques & API used in Java. SCJP should be considered a basic level test of Java Programming Language. For advanced level testing Sun has SCJD, SCWCD, SCEA emphasining on different parts of Java requiring at least SCJP to appear (except SCEA). If u compare with MCSD or other certifications u'll find how standard the exam (SCJP) is! Sun first ensures that b4 going to specialized Java topics everyone has minimum understanding of the language fundamentals.
So i would rather suggest experienced programmers to continue with SCJP, SCWCD and SCEA according to interest...

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