How is the real exam like??

[sonir shah]

Hello All SCJP's
I would like to ask u'll regarding the real exam.
Is it something like the computer on which you sit connects to Sun Microsystems and then they throw questions online, through Internet...
Or is it something like the question paper is already loaded on the machine and is just needs to started.??
Is there any sample test to be given before the real exam starts??
In the end, does it shows a review incase if we have left out any question? Do we Instantly get the marks we obtained on the screen?
I guess we get a temporary marksheet from Sun indicating our marks? is that true and then how long does it take to recieve the Original Certificate??
I know I have put lots of questions in one para, but this is just because I am curious to know..
Sonir
:roll:

[sonir shah]

Hello ???
Any body alive???
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Sonir

[Axel Janssen]

Think they sleep now in U.S. and many are from there.
Questions are allready loaded.
There is a learn the testing-software-feature. But its very easy to use.
Yes it shows a review of questions left out.
You get your points at the end. During the test you can navigate to questions allready answered.
There is even a feature where you can mark questions where you not sure. You can change to a overview page, where you see the unsure-marks, the unanswered questions, etc.
Yes. You get a temporary marksheet. I received my original certificate some 2 weeks later.
Most important: You have a lot of time during the exam.
I had answered all questions after 1 hour, then I took a coffee in the kitchen and went back, revising the questions until the 2 hours had passed. Then I got a screen telling me that I got 91% correct. You get even a statistic about what points you reached for every topic.
You know that its more important to learn Java than to pass that test. Test is definitively not easy, but it is just a starter. There are so much important topics which dont appear in the test: J2EE, Swing, UML, Design Patterns, XML, Databases etc.
The more deeper you get in the concepts of the SCJP the more easier it will be to learn these more advanced topics. code-a-lot.
good luck Sonir...
axel
[ January 11, 2002: Message edited by: Axel Janssen ]
[ January 11, 2002: Message edited by: Axel Janssen ]

[sonir shah]

TESTS ARE DEFINETELY NOT EASY..
are you scaring me???
Sonir

[Axel Janssen]

Sonir. Easy is a relative term. I made it, a lot of other people made it and you will make it, too.
And: There are more important things in life. (For example understanding design patterns )
No problem.
Dont worry.
[ January 11, 2002: Message edited by: Axel Janssen ]

[sonir shah]

Ok Axel.
I am appearing for the SCJP exam on the 28th of this month..SO still 2 weeks to go. I have finished with mocks from Marcus.
I got average of 70% in all the 3 tests.
And i gave a few tests from JQ+.In that I am still getting an avg.of 60-65.
Can u'll let me know where do i stand??
How much i need to study more and what to study inorder to get fair marks in the exam?
Is is true that Marcus's tests and JQ+ questions are similar kind of which come in the exam??
What should I now do in these last few days?
Sonir

[Axel Janssen]

Hi Sonir,
so you still have 2 weeks to do some more mocks. Or you may repeat mocks. (Gives a good self-esteem ). In my last days before the exam I made the Marcus Green exams with a 95%, in part because I allready knew the questions.
I would play around with JQ+. This is very good, because it gives you clear explanations. I experienced in the 2 weeks before the exam that my score went up, even in the exams which I did the first time.
I found that the exam was easier than JQ+. Remember that you don't do that for the test, but to become a professional.
Axel

[Jim Petersen]

Hi Sonir
In the exam force yourself to keep cool ...relax! I found this the hardest part. I had a fire alarm in mine and this helped me to relax by going outside into the fresh and think about other things (ie check out the nice girls etc ) - basically anything to take my mind off the test! I went back in and restarted and my head was clear and I'm sure this helped me pass ie rechecking the ones that I had attempted previously I found that they were wrong
As Axel stated - before the exam code code code and revise the constructors for I/O thoroughly

[sonir shah]

Thank Jim and Axel.
Actually the thing is that I have no programming back ground and JQ+ I am finding very difficult..
Ok Marcus is good.I can score easily with 75-80%.
But thats not the way with JQ+.
Hey do you'll suggest to revise the whole RHE again? in these last few days? or continue with my mocks? or read some Notes rather?
Please let me know.
Sonir

[Axel Janssen]

Sonir,
I would say: mocks and r e l a x.
And buy this one a f t e r exam.
http://www.javaranch.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=49&t=000114
Its a perfect book for SCJPs.
Axel
[ January 11, 2002: Message edited by: Axel Janssen ]

[Jim Petersen]

Sonir
As Axel said, the concensus is that JQ+ is tougher than the real thing it would seem you are getting close to gaining a pass.
You may want to find a few more mocks on the web: eg from this list
http://www.javaranch.com/mock.jsp
and nail down what areas you are weak in. Go back and revise these areas practice with coding to reinfoirce the subject and hit JQ+ again. Repeat the the process by seeing what areas you are weak in and revise/code etc Given the time frame I think this is doable. If you don't feel comfortable come exam time - you can always postpone it until you feel confident
(Axel's choice of book after the exam is a good one as well! - along with Professional Java Programming by Brent Spell - Wrox press)

[sonir shah]

By the way Jim, What is this book for? I tried viewing the web page which you mentioned , but was not able to understand..
And why did u mention to see the book after the Exam..Is this book in Connection with Java?
Please reply
Sonir

[Jim Petersen]

Sonir
the book is Professional Java Programming check it here save this book for after the exam though!
[ January 12, 2002: Message edited by: Jim Petersen ]
[ January 12, 2002: Message edited by: Jim Petersen ]