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certifications - my thoughts

 
Raj M
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hi Friends,
I have been living in the united states
for the last 10 years. I have several IT certifications. I am from India. Recently, I visited India and realized that the Certification Testing Centers over there are selling certifications for a price.
This is true with both MS and Java certifications.
It felt like, the system over there is out of order in terms of conducting tests.
Over here, I have some of my friends working in some consulting firms in Michigan and California.
When I got back from India, I shared my experience with my friends over here.
I came to know that in their consulting firms (in their own experience)
- Some of their Indian colleagues, when they see some one who has passed a certification, 'without hesitation' ask for the assignment solution.
- Some of their (Indian) managers some how suggest a passed candidate to 'Make Sure' that others also get certified.
I would like to say the following:
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1)Most of the Indian software professionals are on H1B and hence are heavily dependent on the employer, hence left with little chance of giving an out an outright 'NO' to any dishonest, cheating idea of getting certification for others.
2)I also do not mean that all of the Indian software professionals are of this nature.
Having said that....
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I would like to put forward my thoughts below:
1) I personally do not attach any value for any certification that is got in India.
We have a system of certification in India which is completely out of order where certifications are FOR SALE. This is really sad, but is the reality over there (I 've checked it myself).
2) It is not the responsibility solely of Sun/Microsoft to maintain the value of certifications,
But it is us, who should keep up the value of these certifications by being honest and not resorting to cheating.
3) We have a system in the United States which is different from what is in India.
Here certifications are NOT FOR SALE.
Wherever we are coming from, whether it is India or some other place, let us do our best in maintaining the value of certifications in the US "atleast".
In summary:
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Any way, there is no value for certifications in India, we need to do whatever we can, to make sure that it does not happen here as well.
And those managers out there pressing people(directly/indirectly) to share their assignment solutions .... please note that it is not just dishonesty, but is illegal to harass people in any manner in this country (unlike India).
You can send your other employees to trainings and give them real-world experience and motivate them to work hard. That's the right way of having potential resources to project to a client, not by showing how many (not truly) certified professionals you have got.
Sorry, I am not giving my real name here as it would expose those of my friends who shared their experiences in confidence with me.
 
Michael Ernest
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Cheating is hardly a problem confined to India or the IT industry. What's sad is how low the stakes may be when people will resort to such tactics.
It is not, after all, a world entirely filled with God-fearing, or law-abiding, or even propriety-minded people. We can put aside our hope not to be disappointed and expect that people will simply cheat for a variety of reasons.
I think it's a real mistake to apologize for what might or might not be going on in India with respect to this kind of cheating. Finding the problem in India only means there are Indian causes for it. That does not mean the problem is inherently Indian.
Take it from an ex-American university instructor. People cheat for all sorts of reasons on all sorts of exams. The underlying reason always seems to be "desperation" -- fear of failure, loss of nerve, an overwhelming need to control their fates. Economic motives are the cheap and easy ones to grab for. When you take a closer look, you find that cheaters are far more often lazy, not needy.
[ July 14, 2002: Message edited by: Michael Ernest ]
 
Alan Chong
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Bad ! Any test centers which sell Java certificates degrade my Java certificate.
Good, I didn't take my Java exam in India.
 
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