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FAILED EXAM 1.2 SCJP

 
Jason Posthauer
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I just took the 1.2 exam and failed with a 55%, by 3 questions. The test was ridiculously hard, all code except about 5-7 questions. Are all versions like this or do you think I just got a tougher version of the test. It did not compare at all to the mock exams on the net. It was much more difficult. I am pissed now, I think I know all the concepts pretty well, but b/c I don't memorize all the packages, I missed to many questions, and the thread questions were like 40 lines of code! Anyone elses tests were this hard?
 
Ashish Hareet
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It's sad
I don't know about the rest but my exam was flooded with code snippets & there were quite a few with like 20-30 lines of code . The rest were like maybe 10-12 lines & only 3-4 were like w/o codes .
IMHO the key to passing the cert is not in knowing the concepts but to know how those things work in practice , in how you can identify error-prone code or how you can infer the outcome of what other folks might have written . As for the packages , especially the lang & collections , they are the key to any basic development . You just gotta know them . The cert , I think tests whether you can be a human-compiler or not
In case you intend to give the cert again start with your fav text editor & the specs+JLS in the background . Code , code & code & if you are still bugged post it here & the folks here will help you . And if you think that you've come across some interesting code that might bug you later add it as a question/answer set in this app or maybe just write it down some place . Next , if you are studying in a topic-wise manner try Dan's mock exams , everybody seems to love them
As for the mock exam's on the net , the ranch has compiled a fairly good list here . My fav though is this one - really hard but compared quite alrite with my own experience .
Don't loose hope , you are not the only one , I know a lotta guys who failed at their first go ( the exam is tough ) but then nirvana dawned on them & they came to the ranch .
Hoping to see you around
Ashish H.
 
Dan Chisholm
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Jason,
Which mock exams did you use for your preparation? What were your scores on those exams?
 
Anthony Villanueva
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Originally posted by Ashish Hareet:
The cert , I think tests whether you can be a human-compiler or not

I especially hate those questions when you have nested loops that keep breaking and continuing... it made me dizzy.
Originally posted by Jason Posthauer:
It did not compare at all to the mock exams on the net. It was much more difficult.

Many seem to agree that the Marcus Green exams is as tough as the real one.
Anyway, just don't keep dwelling on what happened and don't let it beat you down. Try it again, focus, and give it your best shot. Best of luck
 
Valentin Crettaz
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Better luck next time Jason
Keep faith and work hard...
This discussion is moved to the Result forum.
Please post your results in the Sun Certification Results forum. Thank you.
 
Tim Goffings
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Jason,
my scjp exam also contained a whole lot of 'code-questions'. They are indeed hard to interprete in such a short time, plus, they contain a lot of traps, so you have to read them carefully.
After taking the exam, I made a mock exam that also mainly contains questions with code snippets. Maybe they can help you to study for a second try ?
The url : http://www.javacoding.net/mocks

hasta
Tim
[ September 16, 2002: Message edited by: Tim Goffings ]
 
Shama Tareen
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Bad Luck, Jason. Go fr it , again.
I'm scheduled to take the test in 5 weeks time, so yr experience is something I need to learn from. Got to brush up on coding !
This is my first post(I just registered today tho'
I've visited this site many times), so I'd like to say Hi! to all ranchers.It's a great place to be fr prospective SCJPs. Good luck to all taking the exam in the near future.
 
Markus W Kramer
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Indeed, there are a large number of question where you have to "akt like a human compiler".
When I read this expression for the first time I thought - wow, what a nonsense.
Unfortunately, taking the exman requires you to do so. And its not so bad: You are lazy when you run the compiler each 2 1/2 minute. The other extreme is to code for 2 hours, and than compile (acting as a compiler each 2 1/2 min yourself). The second will save you time. The exam tests your ability to write correct code without the help of a compiler.
When I prepared the exam, I was far from being so positive about it: I thought: why should I learn the API? What do I have an IDE for? During learning I said sometimes: "oh, that's why ...". I think this is the biggest benefit from learning the API. It does not mean you are a human compiler, it means that you understand the people who designed the API.
 
Jason Posthauer
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I took all of the mock exams listed on javaranch and scored between 75 to 95 on all of them. But they were not even close to the questions I had on the exam. I was getting a bunch of questions with loops like :
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I didn't see any questions with empty expressions in loops on the mocks. And some questions on different mock exams say you can initialize a for loop outside of the params, while others say you never can. I also had questions on threads which were like 50-60 lines of code, I had no chance on these, I got like 28% on thread section. I don't understand why if I got such a high score on the mocks, I failed. In my opinion the mocks were like 3 to 4 times easier than the actual test. I don't know if this is another attempt by Sun to make more money, just like their expiration on certifications(which is ridiculous). Maybe I'll just stick with VB, asp, and pl/sql, b/c I can't afford to keep shelling out $150 when their test is really alot harder than the level you should be at to understand the language and how to apply it.
[ September 16, 2002: Message edited by: Valentin Crettaz ]
 
TonyM
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Try one more time. My advice: buy JQPlus. It only costs around $30 and the questions are harder than the actual exam. In fact, on the real exam I had about 3 questions which seemed to be duplicates of the mock exam questions (or the other way around?)
 
Bharat Keskar
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I think tony is right.
I have been giving JQPlus mocks from past one month.i should say..they are just wonderful.
After solving jQplus i am now really comfortable for the real exam which is on 23 rd sep.
So go ahead with it.
all the best
bharat
 
Shishio San
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Hi,
Is there anyway to have a free copy of the JQ+ ?
 
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