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Robert Konigsberg
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I don't understand why certification results are moved to this forum? I only really dwell in the SCJD forum and I think the lack of conversation about results takes away from the conversation there!

Why can't the results remain there? After all, the people who I want to share my results with are the ones that were in that forum!

Thanks, Rob
 
Terry Martinson
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Many people feel as you do. Here is a related discussion on this topic.

TJ
 
Robert Konigsberg
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Thanks. I read that post. I see what Andrew is saying, that there are benefits, but I'm not sure that's so. Andrew has a macro-community perspective, but I have a micro-community perspective. I suspect that the majority of us have a micro-community perspective, and this just sort of takes away from the ability to converse with our micro communities.

Hey, I'm just looking from my perspective, and it's not my bulletin board, but I suppose I'll just ask: Andrew, what would it take to convince you to leave results postings in the appropriate certification forum?

Thanks, Rob
 
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Hi Robert,

Originally posted by Robert Konigsberg:
Hey, I'm just looking from my perspective, and it's not my bulletin board, but I suppose I'll just ask: Andrew, what would it take to convince you to leave results postings in the appropriate certification forum?

Thanks, Rob


It is not me you have to convince .

I am really a fence sitter on this - I can see benefits of both moving the posts and of keeping them in the forum where they originate. Most of my arguments in that thread were my attempt to provide some alternate arguments to those already proposed.

As for changing the policy of moving "I passed" type posts - I think the major obstacle is that we have one policy for all the certification forums, which is to move the posts. It is difficult to enforce one policy for (say) SCJP and a different one for SCJD. So we would have to get all the other moderators to agree to leave such posts in their forums as well.

Hopefully some other moderators / sherrifs will put their thoughts into this thread.

Regards, Andrew
 
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Hi guys,

I think I'm the one who moved the last "I passed" post from the SCJD to the Results forum.

Robert, I perfectly understand your concerns and they look pretty valid to me. I'm not sure a majority of people have a micro-community perspective, though, but I won't delve into that topic now. The fact is that you (and probably other people, too) prefer to stay in the same forum for reading topics with both questions and results. As Andrew said, we would like to consistently apply the same policy for all certification forums because we have made the experience that letting "I passed" posts in the same forum as questions would only clutter the forum and that would make the whole browsing-thing unconfortable. Agreed, in the SCEA forum, the results posts stay there as well as in the Other Certifications (aka non-Sun ones) forums. My opinion on this is that as long as nobody complains that the forums is becoming unusable, we can make the same exception for SCJD as we do for SCEA so that reading "I passed" posts positively impacts your studies and completes your knowledge base. I will personally continue to move "I passed" posts out of SCBCD, SCDJWS, SCJP, SCWCD and SCMAD whenever I get across them
 
Robert Konigsberg
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Well you could be right; my micro-view might include the assumption that I have a micro-view. Mostly I want to post my "I passed/failed" result to the forum (okay maybe I won't admit to failing. ) but also I am interested in helping the community be better at supplying to the .. er .. community.

Anyhow, and most important, thanks for your immediate and thoughtful responses.

Rob

PS I, too, peruse about 5 or 6 forums. So I guess it's not so micro- after all!
 
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