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PASSED SCJP 6.0 with 81%

 
Namit Puri
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Hi,

I don't know why anyone doesn't post any failures on this forum. Is the rate of success for this exam is quite higher than rate of failures?

Well, I just did it as I am very frustrated right now. I am so frsutated that I just don't want to study the java topics again. I got only 52%, and despite of studying hard for 8 weeks, I can't beleive that i failed.May be I am too pessimistic.
Anyways, what's next to do. Offcially I can retake the exam in 2 weeks time, but I don't think that would be sufficient enough to prepare again.
I also need to finsh my Msc project which will take atleast another 6 weeks. Shall I restart my preparation once I finish my project, or retake the exam after 2 weeks time, as allowed by the Sun.
If to retake, in next 2 weeks what approach shall i follow?

Thanks!!

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Finally.. I have passed SCJP 6.0 with 81% after a long wait....

The last time I gave the exam i had just passed out of university and was looking for job. But since I landed into my job, i didn't bothered to prepare for the exam. Hence, to motivate my self i bought the exam voucher 6 months back which was due to expire on 31st Jan. I then restarted the preparation in november and finally cleared the exam today. I am even more happy as this exam was causing a hinderance for learning advanced java. Now i can concentrate on the advanced stuff like servlets and jsp.

Last but not least.. I would like to thank.. my dear fellow ranchers who have inspired me to re-appear for the exam and also helped in java related problems.

 
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hello Namit,

a while ago someone posted a failed SCJP for the second time. A few days later the Google ranking for his name to this post was 1! So anyone searching for him with Google would get this post first in which he admitted that he failed the SCJP exam twice.

Unfortunately some parts of the society do not allow an IT professional to admit failure in anything. I think that this is the reason why there are mostly reports of high scores in this forum. Admitting failure might demonstrate character and improve character, but that doesn't pay for a living.

So in demonstrating character and helping others with your report you have weakened yourself.

What did you score on fresh (unknown) mock exams right before the test? That helps us to determine whether you are just bad at tests or not proficient enough in the SCJP topics yet. I assumed that this is about SCJP 5.0.

Anyway, you are very close to passing.

Kai
 
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Originally posted by Namit Puri:
Hi,

I don't know why anyone doesn't post any failures on this forum. Is the rate of success for this exam is quite higher than rate of failures?

Well, I just did it as I am very frustrated right now. I am so frsutated that I just don't want to study the java topics again. I got only 52%, and despite of studying hard for 8 weeks, I can't beleive that i failed.May be I am too pessimistic.
Anyways, what's next to do. Offcially I can retake the exam in 2 weeks time, but I don't think that would be sufficient enough to prepare again.
I also need to finsh my Msc project which will take atleast another 6 weeks. Shall I restart my preparation once I finish my project, or retake the exam after 2 weeks time, as allowed by the Sun.
If to retake, in next 2 weeks what approach shall i follow?

Thanks!!

My advise would be to retake in the next 2/4 weeks.From the result sheet you will be knowing the areas under which you lost most marks.So this time you concentrate more on them.Also dont try too many commercial mocks/free available study notes.Just read K and B again and again so that you can focus all your attention on just one Book.
Also a persons attitute is determined by how he handles failure rather than how he handles success because you dont need to handle success.

So go for it again.Your score is not that bad either.Its very close to passing.So go for it and you would be laughing come another 4 weeks.

All The Best
 
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Hey Namit,

We appreciate you telling us. A lot of people fail on their first try, but very few are as brave as you! Remember that Sun wants a high percentage of people to fail on their first attempt. JavaRanch gives us a scewed view of just how hard these exams are, and of just how many people fail.

It sounds to me like you're close.

Focus on those areas where you were the weakest - that will be the fastest way to pick up those few percentage points you need!

good luck,

Bert
 
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Hi Namit,
It's not everybody pass in their first attempt. But nobody has the courage to admit that they fail. Anyway you are close to the passing score. Concentrate on your weak areas and once you are confident appear for the exam. Try to get commercial softwares and i think that will tell you where you stand.
 
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Hi all,

Thanks for your supporting replies. These were my scores::
OOConcepts --> 40%
Flow Control --> 45%
Fundamentals --> 63%
API Contents --> 54%
DEclarations, Initializing, Scoping --> 91%
Collections/Generics --> 10%
Concurrency --> 50%

I am not able to figure out where did I went wrong in topics such as OOConcepts and Flow Control. I can accept the scores in my other topics as I knew how I would do in real exam, from the mock exams I took.

Anyways, I am planning to retake the exam in 2weeks time. Does anyone think is it sufficient time to prepare or I need to invest some more time.

Thanks!!
 
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hi amit,

Don't worry,
Failure is first step for success
 
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Hi Amit,

I'm sorry to hear you failed your test

Would you mind sharing with us what book you used ?
and was it a surprise to you or did you already feel during the test that
the questions were a whole lot more difficult then what you prepared for ?

Of course it is a lot of money,but if possible, I would not throw away all the effort already spent.

regards,
Mark
 
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Hi Mark,

I don't want to blame any book or mock tests for my failure. I read K & B. I think my approach or time spent for the preparation was not correct. To be honest I was surprised, when I came to know about the result, as during the test I was confident to clear it off.
Anyways, I will definitely retake it, but after my project in 2 months time.

Thanks!
 
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finish my project, or retake the exam after 2 weeks time, as allowed by the Sun
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Is it really possible to retake the exam within 2 weeks of time(India), without paying any Money?

Can any one tell me please?

If so, I think that may be the best option.
 
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Hi Namit,
Please don't take your failure to heart. It happens with all of us. We are humans after all.
Regarding preparation, carefully analyze what went wrong. Maybe the approach needs some fine tuning. I suggest you be hell bent on understanding the concepts first. Fo e.g. when you see a code question, visualize the flow in your mind and apply all the related concepts and come up with answer. After that check it out on the machine as well.

All the best to you!
 
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Hi
Namit , don't loose your heart , you are the best to know your state of mind and heart now , my advise will be take 2 or 3 days sit and analyse wheather the effort you had given was sufficient or it needs more and the areas of your weakness , be specific about objectives , do small small programs related to the objectives and try to crack the concepts and logic behind it , before registering exam again you first take some mock test and if you are scoring constantly 80 percent or more than that then register for exam and schedule the exam within 10 days of registration .Be confident and sure that you have covered almost all objectives you will see result has to come good .

All my best wishes are with you. Best of luck. Cheer up.
 
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I think the head first seriese for exams are enough.
 
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I would suggest you take like a month break , This time around read not just to pass the exam but to know those areas where you went wrong. when i did my first Java exam in 2002 i was lucky to score 62 and 62 was the pass mark. Not every one passes on their first try sometimes failing helps, I have failed an exam twice before passing it on the third time, sometimes its not that you don't know it but excitement contibutes too, The next time you do your exam , try to go through it like 2-3 times. the questions are very tricky and with books like head first and any exam simulator you are sure to pass

Good Luck

Originally posted by Namit Puri:
Hi all,

Thanks for your supporting replies. These were my scores::
OOConcepts --> 40%
Flow Control --> 45%
Fundamentals --> 63%
API Contents --> 54%
DEclarations, Initializing, Scoping --> 91%
Collections/Generics --> 10%
Concurrency --> 50%

I am not able to figure out where did I went wrong in topics such as OOConcepts and Flow Control. I can accept the scores in my other topics as I knew how I would do in real exam, from the mock exams I took.

Anyways, I am planning to retake the exam in 2weeks time. Does anyone think is it sufficient time to prepare or I need to invest some more time.

Thanks!!
 
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Many, many people do not pass first time, it is just that few people like to admit it.
 
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Dear Namit,

Please find the mail whch i wrote in Nov 13th when i wrote the exam for the second time and passed it. I have explained a lot in it. There is a group on the net for SCJP 5.0 other than Java ranch, it is javabeat.net, it's useful too

Mail :

Hello,

I am Ravishankar, from Chennai. I finally managed to clear the
SCJP1.5 exam with a score of 66% today. I took the exam previously
in the month of May' 2006 however I did not get through the exam at
that time.

I am currently working as a Mainframe programmer with nearly 3 years
of experience on the Legacy side. I decided to take up the
certification a year back and from then on it has been quite a
journey.

And here I am now - SCJP 5.0 certified.

I sincerely thank the members of the group, for all the support and
motivation which has been provided to me. I used to read most of the
mails related to questions that were posted and solutions that were
given.

I believe that with sincere dedication and with preparation for
about 3 months - it should be good enough to get an excellent score
in the SCJP 5.0 exam. This would include preparing for about 4 hours
on weekdays and about 6 hours on weekends.

The SCJP Whizlabs Simulator is a great tool around, and we could use
it to our advantage by judging our scores on the tests while
preparing for the Exam.

The Bible - SCJP 310-055 Exam Study Guide by Kathy Sierra and Bert
Bates is the book around. Please read this yo get a good hold on all
the syntaxes and rules for the Java exam, this book is an excellent
resource.

Like me, most of the exam takers would agree that by reading this
book thoroughly one can guarantee a great score in the exam.

Personally, I feel that if one were to read this book at least 7 to
8 times thoroughly, then one could ace the exam.

Please note that the SCJP 5.0 exam is tough (it is more practical
oriented with a lot of questions on whether a piece of code would
compile or would give an exception at runtime) but with proper
approach and great guidance we can ace and excel the exam.

I am closing this mail for now - however I would welcome your
inputs, questions and suggestions on the exam.

Sorry though for the pretty long mail.

Thanks and please post your queries �
Ravishankar SCJP 5.0
 
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hi Namit,
re-study K&B for 5.0,see in which topic you are not confident.next time give the exam with high on confidence level.
 
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they say

"if you do not succeed the first time, make sure you cover up all evidences that show that you tried"
 
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Dont worry mate.... Just hang in there, keep studying hard, practice more examples on a computer rather than only reading them...

i'm sure you'll do well the next time...

Good Luck...!!!
 
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Dear Namit,

Trust me, you are not alone. Hundreds of people fail in various IT certification exams every month and Java certification is not an exception.

I advice you to give some time and analyze where you might have missed and focus on those areas for your next attempt.

Best wishes,
Pradeep Chopra
 
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Study all the materials once more and retake the test after 4 weeks.Analyse the sections properly where you did mistakes.
 
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Hi Namit,

You dont worry at all, we are all with you.. Go ahead with your preprations and give your shot, you will be successfull....
Concentrate on K&B book.
My Best Wishes to you....

Mamatha

SCJP(1.4)
 
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Hello Namit,

I failed the exam also. Since then, haven't found the time to re-exam. Do yourself a favor and get back in there.

We need more posts from people who fail then later pass. These people are the ones that we learn from most.

Your post is most helpful in getting motivated again. Thanks.
 
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hI,

Dont worry.
Even i failed first time when i took the SCEA part 1.I got only 43%.
Second time when i took i got 91%.

Durga
 
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Originally posted by Ravishankar Smiles:
Dear Namit,

Please find the mail whch i wrote in Nov 13th when i wrote the exam for the second time and passed it. I have explained a lot in it. There is a group on the net for SCJP 5.0 other than Java ranch, it is javabeat.net, it's useful too

Mail :

Hello,

I am Ravishankar, from Chennai. I finally managed to clear the
SCJP1.5 exam with a score of 66% today. I took the exam previously
in the month of May' 2006 however I did not get through the exam at
that time.

I am currently working as a Mainframe programmer with nearly 3 years
of experience on the Legacy side. I decided to take up the
certification a year back and from then on it has been quite a
journey.

And here I am now - SCJP 5.0 certified.

I sincerely thank the members of the group, for all the support and
motivation which has been provided to me. I used to read most of the
mails related to questions that were posted and solutions that were
given.

I believe that with sincere dedication and with preparation for
about 3 months - it should be good enough to get an excellent score
in the SCJP 5.0 exam. This would include preparing for about 4 hours
on weekdays and about 6 hours on weekends.

The SCJP Whizlabs Simulator is a great tool around, and we could use
it to our advantage by judging our scores on the tests while
preparing for the Exam.

The Bible - SCJP 310-055 Exam Study Guide by Kathy Sierra and Bert
Bates is the book around. Please read this yo get a good hold on all
the syntaxes and rules for the Java exam, this book is an excellent
resource.

Like me, most of the exam takers would agree that by reading this
book thoroughly one can guarantee a great score in the exam.

Personally, I feel that if one were to read this book at least 7 to
8 times thoroughly, then one could ace the exam.

Please note that the SCJP 5.0 exam is tough (it is more practical
oriented with a lot of questions on whether a piece of code would
compile or would give an exception at runtime) but with proper
approach and great guidance we can ace and excel the exam.

I am closing this mail for now - however I would welcome your
inputs, questions and suggestions on the exam.

Sorry though for the pretty long mail.

Thanks and please post your queries �
Ravishankar SCJP 5.0


"The Bible" {?} - SCJP 310-055 Exam Study Guide by Kathy Sierra and Bert
Bates is the book around.
This book was published; Dec 21, 2005
"Publisher: McGraw-Hill Osborne Media; 1 edition (December 21, 2005)"
ISN'T IT OVER AN YEAR OLD FOR THIS EXAM?
 
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Originally posted by Namit Puri:
Hi,

I don't know why anyone doesn't post any failures on this forum. Is the rate of success for this exam is quite higher than rate of failures?

Well, I just did it as I am very frustrated right now. I am so frsutated that I just don't want to study the java topics again. I got only 52%, and despite of studying hard for 8 weeks, I can't beleive that i failed.May be I am too pessimistic.
Anyways, what's next to do. Offcially I can retake the exam in 2 weeks time, but I don't think that would be sufficient enough to prepare again.
I also need to finsh my Msc project which will take atleast another 6 weeks. Shall I restart my preparation once I finish my project, or retake the exam after 2 weeks time, as allowed by the Sun.
If to retake, in next 2 weeks what approach shall i follow?

Thanks!!


IF YOU FOLLOWED THIS "OVER AN YEAR OLD BOOK" FOR YOUR EXAM?!
You know what I mean ;-)

"The Bible" {?} - SCJP 310-055 Exam Study Guide by Kathy Sierra and Bert
Bates is the book around.
This book was published; Dec 21, 2005
"Publisher: McGraw-Hill Osborne Media; 1 edition (December 21, 2005)"
 
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Hi Sree,

First off, as a moderator, I need to ask you to not post the same topic in multiple forums.

That said, I have a question for you. Why are you so concerned about the fact that our cert book is a whopping 14 months old?

I answered your question in the other forum in which you posted the question, and it's probably best to continue the conversation there.

Thanks,

Bert
[ January 30, 2007: Message edited by: Bert Bates ]
 
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I just barely passed today (61%). Did the worst in what I consider my stronger areas (Generics/Collections and flow control/Fundamentals). Just signed up to start the SCJD where I figure I can actually do some coding and show that I know my worth.

I think the multiple choiceness (word?) of the test leaves something to be desired. I enjoyed the Task questions. I have developed with java for 4+ years now, but I read the SCJP Apress book before testing to refresh.

I lack patience with these things, but for $200 I figured I could at least read a book first. I think it would have been very advantageous if I would have marked down the questions I was unsure of on my scratch paper instead of getting to the end of the test, never having used the scratch paper, and being sick of looking at questions. You get to the end and get to see all of your answers compiled together, but have to click on them individually to find out what they actually were, there should be a way to flag questions in the system.

Oh well, I'm passed, time for the fun part, the SCJD .
 
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I think many people fail, but it is much more fun when you tell the others something successful. Nobody likes to admit they didn't pass.

That's the reazon I study very hard before I take a certification exam. I do every mocks I can, to ensure that my score is enough to take the exam.

After you pass you completely forget the test, but when you fail... it's really upset: you think everytime why you didn't study this ot that topic, that you could have spent more time taking the exam, you count the questions you almost answered right, etc.

But I think that when you fail it is when you learn more.
[ March 20, 2007: Message edited by: Oscar Kinto ]
 
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The more people that fail the more value the cert has imo.
So it's good that *some* people fail....as long as I don't.
 
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Originally posted by Jay Dilla:
The more people that fail the more value the cert has imo.
So it's good that *some* people fail....as long as I don't.


We have some mean people out here...
 
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There is only one thing for rescue.

MOck exams.

They tell you the truth. Good or bad but very helpful since it is letting you know before you give the real exam!!

Give lot of mock exams. Several times. Note down the mistakes and important concepts. Concepts which you tend to forget. You can crack SCJP.

Regards
Atul
 
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I'm curious Namit. Did you ever retest and pass?
 
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Hi Namit,

Well, what I should say has been already said by most of them.

Don't feel bad about failures, I know its kind of tough not to feel bad about them. But, at the same time, thinking about it does not take us anywhere.

Trust me, I have undergone the same situation you are in, I wrote my CCNA exam three times, and I cleared it only in my fourth time. I bet, no one would have prepared like how I prepared for CCNA, thats the whole good thing in it.

Keep up your spirit...Nothing is impossible...Do it again !! but a bit hard this time !!

Last but not the least... "Success is how high you bounce when you fall low.." keep it in mind.

We will be waiting for your success post soon

Cheers
 
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Hi ,

It has been a while since someone brave enough admitted that he has failed the exam coz the posts and the scores make it look like tht it's one of the most easiest exams to take which certainly won't make SUN people happy. Well that is not the case .

[Edited out suggestion to use braindump material]

All the best for your retest
[ April 28, 2007: Message edited by: Barry Gaunt ]
 
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DO not give up cause you failed once or twice. The only people who really fail are the ones who quit. You will pass after more study. It might take you longer for various reasons.

I dont know what you are doing so I cannot pick out problems for you. Do not study with the TV on or the radio or when your giirlforend is kissing you. Distractions make you miss stuff.

Block out an hour or two every day to study at the same time and find a place no one bothers you.

Take notes on the important stuff and review the notes until you have memorized them.

Learn from your mistakes. If you miss a problem on a mock test then look it up and get the righ answer and write it down. Review it everyday for a while till you know the answer. If you know the answers you won't miss the questions.

You need to study more and remember better. I would make notes on the most important items and read them trying to memorize them before bed. Everyday or every couple if you can. Spend about 30 minutes doing this and change to a new set of notes when you think you know them. You can phrase it as a questions and then give the answer from memory until you get it right. question answer; question answer ; ...

I also suggest using the exam criteria on the Sun site as a guide and be sure to completly cover each topic. I am using the Sun books as study book since I hope they follow the tests more closely. One of the authors also helped write the tests.

I change books when it gets too boring. Dull really turns me off so it is hard most times to read the books. I like the source material on this website because it is different. I also use Introduction to JAVA by Y. Danile Yang and the SYBEX Cert Guides and as I said the Sun Core Java books are best.

Then again I have not taken the cert test so I may be blowing smoke.
 
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please let me know the procedure of retest
 
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Please tell me ASAP, as i need to giv this month only.
thanks in advance
 
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I guess though many people fail, few have the courage to admit it in such forums. Kudos to you for coming forward like this.

I recently completed this certification. Would suggest to you, going by your scores and my own experience, is to take as many Mock Tests as possible.

All the best for the next time. And the saying goes.... "Failures are the stepping stones to success"
 
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