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Benefits for Sun Certification

 
jimp
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I was having a converstion with a friend of mine last night and we were talking about the benefits of being certified. The most notable benefit is of course the certificate itself that proves that you have accomplished something (passed a series of tests of some known quality).
I was wondering what you all thought about Sun's benefits that they provide to certification holders. What else should they provide to certification holders?
thanks, jim
 
Bret Waldow
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I haven't made up business cards using the logo I'm allowed by passing the Programmer Certification, but I know having it on the resume has helped me get work.
 
Suhel Rizvi
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I think that certification at least helps you to get to the interview if nothing else - it gives the employers confidence they know basics at least. During the interview process many companies have to weed out applicants who don't know the basic Java stuff and this takes up the interviewers time also. I have worked at a number of companies and whilst the companies were recruiting staff they always looked more favourably on the resume/CV if the applicant had some sort of Sun Java certification in particular.
The same may now be true for Weblogic or Websphere certification with the emphasis in Java development being more on J2EE architecture.
 
Douglas Kent
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I've had some definite benefits in my current assignment. Having the SunCJP and SCJD have resulted in my being selected as "system architect" of our J2EE EJB development effort. "In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king"...
 
CaryB
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I've been around this industry for a while and in my experience, I've never run into any problems where not being certified has hurt me. I'm sure that it can help get your foot in the door, but it's never been necessary for me and I've been gainfully employed since '89 without any gaps between jobs.
Not to say I'm not interested, though. Over the years I've set out to get several certs only to get bored and give up. I guess I figure I have a job and it probably won't get me anymore money, so why waste the time. Also, it seems my responsibilities change too quickly and the old cert is no longer applicable to my job.
However, I am seriously contemplating SCJP certification now and think I'll actually try to get this one! For me, it's more of a personal thing to know for myself that my knowledge is at a certain level.
I don't think too much of a college degree, either. In this industry, experience is 100% more important than any piece of paper. Especially when I know that colleges can't keep their curriculums up to speed with the technology changes. So when I'm hiring contractors, I don't scan for a bunch of letters after their name. I look for past experiences similar to my current needs. If they have that, I do the interview and test their knowledge then.
So, IMHO, do it for yourself, not for anyone else. Unless you know *for sure* you'll get more money from your employer. That's a nice incentive!
 
Wouter Zelle
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Originally posted by CaryB:
So, IMHO, do it for yourself, not for anyone else. Unless you know *for sure* you'll get more money from your employer. That's a nice incentive!

100% agree. It can be a lot of fun learning for an exam (I pick up quite a few tricks and forgotten features from the R&H book for instance). And taking the mock exams is fun as well. So why not go for the cert?
 
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