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Not worth - IBM Tests 158 and 157

 
Luciano Queiroz
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I don't believe it's worth for us to try the exams 157 and 158.
Sooner they must be replaced or adjusted, because IBM released new versions of WAS and WSAD. The ultimate is version 5 and the exams are about version 4.0.3.
The same opinion I have about test 483 - J2EE 1.2
Sun already released J2EE 1.4!
I believe the exam 483 must be replaced soon too!
 
garth schneider
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Luciano,
I wish that I didn't have to agree with you but reality is reality. It seems a test should be taken after you have aquired experience with a IDE or Application server etc.. along with book knowledge. If you follow that altruistic paradigm you will be always taking exams that will expire and be invalid (ie. VisualAge exam in December.) shortly after you take them. I have a Solution Developer in VisualAge and with WSAD 4.0.3. In Dec VisualAge will be invalid. Given the fact that WSAD 5.0 is out I would imagine that WSAD 4.0.3 will be invalid within the year. That seems strange since there are customers still using VisualAge for Java and will still be using WAS 4.0 yet. Also the major recently published Redbooks for Lotus Notes Sametime refer to VisualAge for Java.
I am going to wait until the new tests get published before I go for Enterprise Developer. I have SCJP and IBM #486 done already. I just need the last 2 which do not appear to have a long life ahead of them.
Garth.
 
Axel Janssen
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agree that xml and uml or even scjp are better certification, because they are valid for a longer time.
I think that companies will accept my 158 or if I pass 157 cert, even if they run websphere 5. Certifications are only a little part of the game. Experience has much greater impact. Certs help me get started, because then I have some theoretical background and you need that for j2ee. I learn more focused with certs.
just my 2 euro cent
Axel
 
Theodore Casser
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Actually, I hate to say it, but I think I agree a fair amount of the time - I feel like IBM's AS certification program isn't worth the effort that's required to keep current.
I'm not saying that the certifications are worthless, or that potential employers/clients see them as being without merit. The exams are reasonably hard, and generally do require that you know your stuff. My major issue is the rapidity with which IBM 'expires' versions.
I was certified in WebSphere 3.5 in May of 2001. By November, I was having to upgrade that to 4.0 (3.5 was retired on 31 Dec 01). Then, I was informed that they were changing the cert to differentiate between those who were certified when VisualAge was the tool and those who now were using WSAD. And now there's 5.0.
I realize that it's important to stay current... but there's a certain point where it becomes ridiculous. It's bad enough to consider that I'd have had to recertify twice in a year if I wanted to keep current (and I haven't), but consider that by March, they'll have tests for WebSphere 5.... and will require another round of recertification.
Granted, I'm no longer working at a firm that's an IBM partner (where we got reimbursed for certification testing, and where it's more important to be current on IBM technology), so I'm looking at it from that aspect. As far as the folks here are concerned, my WebSphere 3.5 and 4.0 certifications are just fine. But... frankly, for the cost of most of these certificates, I'll stick to programs that don't upgrade quite so frequently.
 
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