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Passed IBM 486 (OOAD)

 
Pranay Singhal
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I passed the IBM 486 OOAD exam today with a score of 90%. I have 4 years of experience in OO systems, and prepared using the Fowler & Larman books, which more or less cover everything you would need to know. The exam is challenging, but not unreasonably tough. The actual questions on the exam are heavy on exhibits & scenarios, but they concentrate on a single domain. The ICE sample test gives an idea of the type of questions to expect, although the actual questions are lengthier. I had scored 77% on ICE. I did not use the Whizlabs simulator. If you have the cash to spare, it may be a good tool. I just thought it's way overpriced.
Good Luck!
 
Prakash Krishnamurthy
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So would it be a correct statement..the ICE test is togher than the actual one. I am going by the statistics that you scored 77% on the ICE and 90% on the actual test...
 
Pranay Singhal
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I took the ICE exam before I did formal preparation. If I go back to the sample test now, I may come back with a better score. However, I can say this as far as comparing the ICE & real exam goes...the questions in the real exam take longer to comprehend & grasp than the sample ones. However, the available choices appeared to be clearer in the real exam.
I would say you are likely to score higher in the real exam.
 
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Congratulations Pranay!
Thanks for your genuine feedback on the pricing of the product. We'll surely look into this matter and take the required action.
Infact we've already taken a step (although temporary exclusive for JavaRanchers) in this direction: If you had noticed, we are currently running a special discount offer on some of our selected Exam Simulators and Online Trainings.. available at http://www.whizlabs.com/promotions/javaranch.html (as pointed by the banner on the top of this page).
Best wishes,
Pradeep
 
Prakash Krishnamurthy
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Pranay,
Pardon my ignorance! When you say "Ice Test", what exactly do you mean. I was thinking for some reason that it is the same as the sample test from IBM
 
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In defense of Whizlab's pricing, I would have to say that you're definitely getting what you pay for, though. I don't know that I would have passed 486 myself without having had it as a resource.
And Pranay, congrats on passing. 90 is a great score and something to definitely be proud of!
 
Pranay Singhal
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Prakash,
ICE is the acronym for IBM Certified Exam and refers to the sample pre-assessment tests offered here. So, I guess I am referring to the same test as you.
Pradeep,
The ongoing promotion is a good idea. However, from an end-user perspective, what would really appeal to me is some sort of flexible product & pricing option (one form of it is the volume discount you already offer). You could possibly create separate editions of the product with varying features (on lines of the skill level of the end user: Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced). These can then be separately priced.
Theodre,
Thanks! Please refer to my comments above regarding the pricing of Whizlabs simulator. I am totally in agreement with you that it's a useful tool. However, each individual gets value based on his/her current skills, and the pricing should permit him/her to pay for just the right amount of value required.
 
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Thanks Pranay for your genuine feedback and Theodore for your appreciation!
Pranay as you said, the actual price of the product is lower in case you go for various offers like 20% discount for existing customer, Buy 2 Get 1 FREE, Bulk discount and JavaRanch special offer.
Will put our best efforts to meet expectations of our users.
Best wishes,
Pradeep
 
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I found the Whizlabs software, and the Whizlabs company to be of very poor quality.
They disable your ability to move the application window for some unknown reason. Also, if your monitor's resolution is high, the text of the answer choices gets cut off somehow, and is unreadable.
To make matters worse, their "Activation" procedure prevents installing more than once, and they are totally based in India, so any issue takes days to get a response.
To make matters worse, many of the questions and answers are written in very poor english, that must only make sense if you're a from India. Here's an example from IBM 484 that I'm studying for now:
"Which of the following might be the reasons for saving session state on the client using HTTP cookies strategy?"
Now, ignoring the fact that cookies are commonly HTTP headers only, and not saved on the client at all, the answer choice A reads:
"Amount of state to be saved is very less"
The above is considered a correct answer by whizlabs !!!
It doesn't even mean anything in English!!! Very less than what? One could say "The amount of state to be saved is small", but "small" is a highly relative term. Less than 4k would be more appropriate.
I've asked for my money back.
 
Serge Adzinets
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Originally posted by Chris May:
Now, ignoring the fact that cookies are commonly HTTP headers only, and not saved on the client at all, the answer choice A reads:

OK, Chris, so where are cookies saved?
BTW, did you look at the sample PRIME questions? Do you think they are clear enough?
 
Chris May
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Cookies are not necessarily "saved" anywhere. They are only persisted to the local disk if you specify an expiration data when you set them. In either case they are passed as an HTTP header in both the request to the server and in the reply from the server.
No, I haven't looked at the PRIME questions. I will look though.
 
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My major issues with the Whizlabs software have been resolved. If you need to get in touch with them, it appears that very early in the morning EST is a good time.
Their product activation supports a manual "offline" mode with a special UCF file method which allows you to install it on multiple computers. The font problem I encountered only appears at resolutions of 1280x1024 and higher, so setting a lower resolution resolves the problem, although it's still annoying.
Not all the exams are listed on their UCF download page, so you may have to email them to get a UCF file for your particular exam. 484 was one such exam.
Hopefully I will encounter "very less" problems now that I've gotten over the initial quirks with their software.
 
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Hi Serge,

did you look at the sample PRIME questions? Do you think they are clear enough?

I can toralent those ambigous only if the exams are cheap. So far, I dont find any unclear questions from SUN. Beta is a bit worst, but beta is free. However, those IBM questions are very very unclear sometimes, especially 486.
However, since ICED only costs me $30, I cant say anything.
If I need to pay but with too much unclear statements, I definitely cannot accept, especially with high price stuffs.
Nick
 
Serge Adzinets
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Hi Nick,
yes, some of IBM questions are very ambigious while some seem to lack enough information to select the answer.
Nevertheless, IBM's tests have non-trivial questions that require some consideration. When taking SCJP I didn't find any interesting questions. The same seems to be true for SCWCD and SCBCD. You can learn the specs by heart and pass them, can't you?
What else do I like about IBM's exams are the special prices for emerging nations Nothing of the kind from Sun
 
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Hi Serge,

Nevertheless, IBM's tests have non-trivial questions that require some consideration.

Agree. When I took 486, a question is very interesting.

A [term] is:
A. Always used
B. Sometimes used
C. Seldom used
D. Never used

I just quote a similar example in order to avoid disclosing the real question. I really feel what a question! The whole question is less than 10 words! The answer is in fact very very difficult to choose.

When taking SCJP I didn't find any interesting questions. The same seems to be true for SCWCD and SCBCD. You can learn the specs by heart and pass them, can't you?

YES. I think questions from SUN are better. At least, the *objectives* are very clear in the question, and you know what you are going to choose. However, I am seldom read the spec., as spec. are quite difficult for me to understand.

What else do I like about IBM's exams are the special prices for emerging nations Nothing of the kind from Sun

huh?
I feel SUN always gives out promotion. At least, we got SCWCD 1.4, SCMAD and SCDJWS beta exam with free! In addition, SUN always conducts Java Day, and once you attend, you can purchase exam vouchers with 33% off. Moreover, if you are university student (full time or part time), and if your university joins SAI program, you can take some SUN's exams with 75% off!!! I took SCJP 1.4 instead of SCJP 1.4 upgrade becos it is even cheaper than the upgrade exam.
Nick
 
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