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zena sam
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Hi Guys,
am planning to taking up a certification in Enterprise Application Development.am confused as to which one should I choose Weblogic or WebSphere...as am new to both...can someone suggest me on this???
Thanks in Advance!
Zena
 
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Hello Zena,
The enterprise application developer is quite an ambitious undertaking. There are 4 test regardless of whether you choose WebSphere or Weblogic, and only one of the four is specific to the tool. Have you looked at the other 3 tests yet? If you are new to ceritifications and application servers then you might want to consider starting with the SCJP. I will be happy to answer any WebSphere questions you may have.
 
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Hi Howard,
Thanks.I have taken SCJP and SCWCD , am looking out for job as many employers ask for WebSphere or Weblogic experience. So I was planning on taking up a product based certification as it would be more convincing, not sure if SCBCD was a better choice.Please let me know about the exams for Weblogic and WebSphere in detail...as to how I should plan...
Thanks in Advance!
Zena
 
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I too am in the same boat as Zena. I have recently passed the SCJP exam and now studying for the SCWCD exam. Most of the jobs I am interested in advertise for web application developers who have experience with either WebSphere or WebLogic. My experience is with Servlets and JSP on Apache Tomcat so I usually don't even get considered for an interview.
My plan at this point is to get the two J2EE certifications from Sun (SCWCD and SCBCD) and then take the tests for the IBM Certified Enterprise Developer - WebSphere Studio, V5.0 certification as well as the test for the BEA Certified Specialist: Server certification. I figure that once I have these feathers in my cap I will be able to truthfully claim that I can develop web apps using WebSphere and WebLogic.
A few questions:
Does the above sound like a reasonable plan, considering that I am unemployed (i.e. I have the time and motivation to study) ?
How long should this take me (I assume a couple of months at least) ?
In regard to the WebSphere Developer certification would I be OK to save the IBM UML test (486) for last, or will I need this knowledge for the WebSphere exam (test 287) ?
Since I am not working for a company which is running WebSphere or WebLogic how will I go about learning those two systems - i.e. are there lite versions for someone like me to use for development and education purposes only ?

I thank you in advance for any feedback.
 
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Hello Howard,
Do you have any book recommendation for IBM 286? Can your book fill in for 286 as well?
 
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Originally posted by James Adams:
I too am in the same boat as Zena. I have recently passed the SCJP exam and now studying for the SCWCD exam. Most of the jobs I am interested in advertise for web application developers who have experience with either WebSphere or WebLogic. My experience is with Servlets and JSP on Apache Tomcat so I usually don't even get considered for an interview.
My plan at this point is to get the two J2EE certifications from Sun (SCWCD and SCBCD) and then take the tests for the IBM Certified Enterprise Developer - WebSphere Studio, V5.0 certification as well as the test for the BEA Certified Specialist: Server certification. I figure that once I have these feathers in my cap I will be able to truthfully claim that I can develop web apps using WebSphere and WebLogic.
A few questions:
Does the above sound like a reasonable plan, considering that I am unemployed (i.e. I have the time and motivation to study) ?
How long should this take me (I assume a couple of months at least) ?
In regard to the WebSphere Developer certification would I be OK to save the IBM UML test (486) for last, or will I need this knowledge for the WebSphere exam (test 287) ?
Since I am not working for a company which is running WebSphere or WebLogic how will I go about learning those two systems - i.e. are there lite versions for someone like me to use for development and education purposes only ?

I thank you in advance for any feedback.

Hello James,
There are trial versions of both WebSphere Studio Application Developer and WebSphere Application Server available on the IBM website.
The 486 (OOAD with UML) is pretty much separate and apart from the 287, so you can save it for last if you want. I saved the 484 test for last.
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Howard Kushner
 
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Originally posted by Harpreet Singh:
Hello Howard,
Do you have any book recommendation for IBM 286? Can your book fill in for 286 as well?

Hello Harpreet,
My book is probably going to be overkill, and the book by Gary Craig and Peter Jakab for the 285 is probably too light. Have you tried the sample test yet (certify.torolab.ibm.com)?
Regards,
Howard Kushner
 
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Hello Howard,
I have tried the sample test at ICE. There seems to be an awful lot of emphasis on various menus and options. Well, the test is about an IDE.... Anyway, I don't have extensive experience using WSAD and I don't think I can possibly memorize all the options.
Personally, I would like to take 287 instead but then I will be forced take two more tests to get the certificate. That seems like way too much work to get certified in WSAD.
I guess what I am really looking for is something like your book for 286 or maybe pointers to sections in your current book.
 
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Hello Harpreet,
As you may be aware, there are three levels for IBM certification:
Entry - IBM Certified Associate Developer (test 285)
Intermediate - IBM Ceritifed Solution Developer (test 286)
Advanced - IBM Certified Enterprise Developer (test 287 and others)

Have you considered starting with the first one? If so then get Gary Craig and Peter Jakab's excellent book. If, on the other hand, you desire the top level certification, then get ready to work hard. Based on the credentials you already possess, you may be an excellent candidate for IBM CED.
In the preface of my book I explain the IBM CED role, as well as how to qualify and prepare. I presume you have already visited www.ibm.com/certify in order to research. Don't be scared by the tests. The 486 test is important as well as the 484, but in the end you will have a credential that few possess. Good luck!
Best Regards,
 
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Hello
Both weblogic and websphere hold almost equal value right now but the choice to use this product is up to the Companies (based on whether they are a Weblogic workshop or Websphere Workshop) rather than Architect's decisions.
I will go with one and get expertised in that and then have an idea about the other in this market situation.
try this site out for IBM Test 286. http://www.exam-simulators.com
 
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