Win a copy of OCP Oracle Certified Professional Java SE 11 Programmer I Study Guide: Exam 1Z0-815 this week in the Programmer Certification forum!
  • Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
programming forums Java Mobile Certification Databases Caching Books Engineering Micro Controllers OS Languages Paradigms IDEs Build Tools Frameworks Application Servers Open Source This Site Careers Other all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
Marshals:
  • Campbell Ritchie
  • Liutauras Vilda
  • Junilu Lacar
  • Jeanne Boyarsky
  • Bear Bibeault
Sheriffs:
  • Knute Snortum
  • Devaka Cooray
  • Tim Cooke
Saloon Keepers:
  • Tim Moores
  • Stephan van Hulst
  • Tim Holloway
  • Ron McLeod
  • Carey Brown
Bartenders:
  • Paweł Baczyński
  • Piet Souris
  • Vijitha Kumara

Why Say Beta???

 
Ranch Hand
Posts: 107
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Why does a lot of certified ppl who did beta exams mention it in their titles?Is there a need to say u r certified as a SCMAD(beta) opposed to just saying SCMAD.Is there any advantage or disadvantage of being a beta exam doer other than the money and the hard work factor?
 
Ranch Hand
Posts: 4982
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator


Why does a lot of certified ppl who did beta exams mention it in their titles?


I simply let people know I took part in the beta exam.


Is there a need to say u r certified as a SCMAD(beta) opposed to just saying SCMAD.


NO. In fact, according to SUN, if you pass the beta exam, it is equivalent to you that you pass the real exam as well. They are equally qualified.


Is there any advantage or disadvantage of being a beta exam doer other than the money and the hard work factor?


In fact, I will not put the word *beta* in my CV. But just wanna put down the *real* exam that I actually took.
Nick
 
Amirthalingam Prasanna
Ranch Hand
Posts: 107
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Thx buddy for the clarifications
 
Ranch Hand
Posts: 116
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Ostensibly,
the Beta is meant to stand you out, i.e. "I took it before the other bandwagon members jumped on", "I was a Betataker in this, see how much I really care about Java/JSP/Web Services?..now, give me that job!", or perhaps "I'm so freakin into this stuff, I do the Beta exams!"
Also the Beta exams are usually free, I believe, and before Sun has built up their question database, the Beta exams are far more difficult than regular exams, (to help them grade the questions) hence the boasting. The problem being, the poor interviewer has no real knowledge of this, unless they themselves have been through a Beta. You end up arguing with a person who didn't even know there was a thing called 'Web Services', let alone the Beta exam in it.
 
Amirthalingam Prasanna
Ranch Hand
Posts: 107
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Yeah thats right.Maybe Beta exam doers shd be given some recognition.I have never taken any beta exams in my life and the scdjws is going to be my first one.Be4 taking the exam considering the hard work i need to put into it i really have respect for the beta exam doers.
 
Jeff Walker
Ranch Hand
Posts: 116
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Amirthalingam,
good luck, your a more courageous person than me. I would never take a Beta exam for many reasons, the 4 hr length of this exam being one of them. I prefer to wait 12 months and see a book or two out on it. I'd like to see the whole exam settle down to some consistency in the questions first.
 
Ranch Hand
Posts: 1934
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Originally posted by Jeff Walker:
Ostensibly,
the Beta is meant to stand you out, i.e. "I took it before the other bandwagon members jumped on", "I was a Betataker in this, see how much I really care about Java/JSP/Web Services?..now, give me that job!", or perhaps "I'm so freakin into this stuff, I do the Beta exams!"
Also the Beta exams are usually free, I believe, and before Sun has built up their question database, the Beta exams are far more difficult than regular exams, (to help them grade the questions) hence the boasting. The problem being, the poor interviewer has no real knowledge of this, unless they themselves have been through a Beta. You end up arguing with a person who didn't even know there was a thing called 'Web Services', let alone the Beta exam in it.



I work for a manager who doesn't even know that there are Java certifications. But she was able to sell a $10mil. project to the customer and then hire J2EE developers to get things done. Rare ha....
 
The glass is neither half full or half empty. It is too big. But this tiny ad is just right:
Java file APIs (DOC, XLS, PDF, and many more)
https://products.aspose.com/total/java
  • Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
Boost this thread!