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Passed IBM-287: became ICED certified :-)

 
Gian Franco
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Hi there,

I passed IBM-287 this morning,
two weeks after passing IBM-484.

If anyone has planned to do these
two exams, my advice is:

- to take advantage of the 484 preparations,
so don't wait too much to book 287, but
don't try to do it too early either.
- brush up your WSAD knowledge
with Kushner (only chapters 8 to
15 are really needed)
- use some very interesting articles
on the IBM developerWorks website
to do some real coding with WSAD.

Personal bonus...I had a free voucher
for IBM-484 and IBM-287

Now I'm expecting my ICED certification

Cheers,

Gian
[ April 21, 2005: Message edited by: Gian Franco Casula ]
 
Nicholas Cheung
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Well done!!!

I passed SCJP Tiger today too!

What's next?

Nick
 
Gian Franco
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Congrats for taming the tiger

Next is probably SCEA

Cheers,

Gian
 
Nicholas Cheung
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Will you go for ICED v6.0?

Nick
 
Gian Franco
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Yes, I'll go for 6.0, but not in the
short term.
 
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congratulations and enjoy!
 
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Congrats Gian, good work



Regards,
 
Axel Janssen
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congrats Gian.
 
Gian Franco
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Hi guys,

Thanks to you all,
I've had some very helpful
tips from you guys either
directly or by reading your
posts

Now I'll wait a bit and then
SCEA has to be tackled.

Cheers,

Gian
 
Billy Tsai
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congratulations, but is ICED worth it?
 
Nicholas Cheung
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is ICED worth it?

Yes.

It is the most valuable certificates I got!

Nick
 
Gian Franco
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Hi,

If you'r into J2EE then ICED is definitely
worth it.

Before starting I was a bit put off by what
I thought to be too much 'vendor locking' ,
since I thought it would be WebSphere biased.

Nothing of all that, you'll only get confronted
with vendor specific things in IBM-287, and
even then the experience built up by exercising
with WSAD consolidates the broad knowledge built
up in the previous exams.

ICED is very broad and that is what makes it
extremely interesting to do. I allready was
SCJP and especially liked to study for 486
and 484. With regards to 287, it took me less
time to prepare, because of the knowledge built
up in 484.

With all the things that are covered, I was
confronted with aspects of J2EE that up until
now didn't give act de presence, due to being
focussed to certain kinds of solutions in my
work. With this extra knowlegde you'll know
to think out of the box and apply what has
'allways' been there for grabbing.

Cheers,

Gian
 
Billy Tsai
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so for ICED only one exam for this certification is tied to IBM specific product?
I was worried I might become an IBM slave if all 4 exams are related to IBM specific product
 
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Yes.

Once you consider to take vendor specific exams, you are already a slave of that vendor.

Nick
 
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In today business environment, we should be multi-vendor slaves !!!
 
Gian Franco
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It's undoable to be independend of any vendor,
unless you're into theoretical informatics, but
that's not my cup of tea .

But on the other hand having 'multi-vendor'
abilities brings you to places more easily and
when a switch is necessary it's easy to adapt.

Cheers,

Gian
 
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Yes, it is better for us to lock in into SUN, IBM and Oracle. Possibly, I wanna be locked in into Microsoft and BEA as well.

Nick
 
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Originally posted by Peter Sin:
In today business environment, we should be multi-vendor slaves !!!


I disagree. If you know >1 vendor + open source a bit, I actually feel less slave, because for me it becomes more obvious when they are talking nonsense.
That's an advantage of java/j2ee, cause the offerings are not thaaaat different.
 
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what are some good and rare(not many ppl have) vendor specific certification that are worth achieving now?
like OCM, CCIE, ICED or BEA?
 
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That's an advantage of java/j2ee, cause the offerings are not thaaaat different.

We need to be multi-vendor because Java in fact is not that platform independent. Different vendor has its own implementation, and sometimes we have to know different deployment configurations on different servers.

For Application Servers, it might rare for a company to have different servers, however, as a software consultant, we might meet different clients who use different servers.

Thus, we must know as much things as possible.

Nick
 
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[QB]what are some good and rare(not many ppl have) vendor specific certification that are worth achieving now?
like OCM, CCIE, ICED or BEA?

For application development, I will go for ICED, as IBM dominates the markets.

However, I will not go for OCM as it is too expensive and it required us to take 2 expensive costs, with practical exams. But if my company does sponser me, I dont mind to go for that.

For CCIE, since it is too "technical" on the networking, it will not in my target list even.

Nick
 
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