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info please - test 141 Vs. 486

 
Jayadev Pulaparty
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Can someone try to mention the relative difficulty of test 486 (UML certification) when compared to test 141 as to where each stand on a scale of 1-10.
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As per my perception 141 is much easier as compared to 486 exam. XML Certification is very basic & one can clear the exam even without writing a single XML/Schema/DTD file. The understanding required in XML certification is basic & is quite easy. On the other hand OOAD with UML certification requires a very sound knowledge of core concepts in object desisgning, which is itself difficult. The recommended book for 486 is Applying UML & patterns by Craig Larman. If you have a look on the book I am sure that you gonna find it quite difficult as compared to any books related with XML. 486 requires more indepth knowledge as compared to XML. If i am asked to rate the exam i will consider 141 at level 4 & 486 exam at level 7.
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Jayadev Pulaparty
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Thanks a lot for the info.
 
Svetlana Petrova
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Hi Jayadev!
Haven't talked to you guys for a long while!
I'm preparing to 486 now too. I first search JavaRanch-Engineering-OOAD&UML for any info about preparation to this exam. And now I just follow postings there:
http://www.coderanch.com/forums/f-9/patterns
I've noticed that people mostly recommend the same books that listed at IBM certification site. So I've started from the 1st one - "UML Distilled" by Martin Fowler. It's a short book, quick reading, and if one already has been working for many years in IT development, than it's just like going through the concepts that has been proved by practice, so they sound very-very familiar. Than people recommend to read as the 2d book an "Applying Patterns" by Larman.
Good luck,
Svetlana.
 
Jayadev Pulaparty
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This is a pleasant Surprise . Nice to see you too working towards test486. I've ordered Fowler and Larman books on the internet. I've been working in C++ and OOPS for the past 5 years and have a decent idea of abstraction and all that good stuff. With this background of mine in mind, Can you suggest me a timeframe i should be looking at for preparing for the exam. BTW, i look forward towards your messages on the new forum OO, Patterns, UML and Refactoring. I need to start my learning and post my doubts there.
 
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Jayadev,
I'm still in the middle of the "UML distilled" book. I didn't touch yet the 2d one. And my project is taking all my time again. I only find time to read it while commuting.
I've found out that people recommend to read Fowler's book at least 2 times (it's short, so it's easy), and read Larman through (this one is bigger), take a sample test at IBM site a couple of times. But everyone agrees that 486 is a tough one. There is more ambiguity in questions.
Sorry, I'm not ready yet to give you time estimates. UML as a formal language is new to me. The only advantage I've got is that I've got a lot of experience (>15 years in IT) in different development methodologies, including DSDM's RAD of 90s (plus training and certification from DSDM), and I used to work with CASE tools (SilverRun) while doing analysys and design. So it helps really.
Good luck,
Svetlana.
 
Jayadev Pulaparty
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Thanks Svetlana for the inputs. I too agree with you that test486 is relatively tougher than test141. In my view, the good part in this exam is that we need not remember anything and if we understand the concepts thoroughly, we can look forward to clearing the test. While taking test141, i was always concerned about facing more questions in the syntax part of it, i.e., like in valid element names, etc. as that is my weakest link We need to remember a lot of rules in those particular parts. I look forward to discussions with you on the new forum and gain knowledge in the domain.
 
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