Beginner Question About Part 2 of SCEA
david chen
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herve attia
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posted 15 years ago
Does everybody get the same project assignment for Part 2? Is there any timeframe wherein a person must finish the programming assignment?
yes, same assignment (Booking Airlines System)...but Sun is on the way to change that....EJB2.0 assignment is coming soon!!...Actually, you are required to provide an architecture using EJB1.1 !!
You have no timeframe.
What do you think would their basis for grading your project?
As Sun mentions : UML must address the requirements.
My advice is :
1) Do not waste your time on Sequence diagram. Make them simplistic and readable!! I convince examiner only checks it out the consistency with Class diagram and Component diagram !!
2) List all the assumptions in a document. Don't forget to mention architecture concerns : authentification, security, session management, performance, scalability, transactions....
Examiner has to clearly understand how your architecture will support them ! Part III asks you some answers about that !!
3) Don't be afraid to modify the Business model and Ucase if you are not agree.
For instance, I modified the itinerary-segment relationship and Prepare Itinerary Ucase !!
4) If you think (like me )that the PetStore MVC sucks ...change it !! Obviously, do not mention that
I also convince Sun expects you to be original...Put yourself if the examiner position who get used to read always the same MVC approach !!
If you think that it is too risky to change business model, ucase, not follow PetStore Model....well Sun grades me 99%...I might be right somewhere
Regards,
yes, same assignment (Booking Airlines System)...but Sun is on the way to change that....EJB2.0 assignment is coming soon!!...Actually, you are required to provide an architecture using EJB1.1 !!
You have no timeframe.
What do you think would their basis for grading your project?
As Sun mentions : UML must address the requirements.
My advice is :
1) Do not waste your time on Sequence diagram. Make them simplistic and readable!! I convince examiner only checks it out the consistency with Class diagram and Component diagram !!
2) List all the assumptions in a document. Don't forget to mention architecture concerns : authentification, security, session management, performance, scalability, transactions....
Examiner has to clearly understand how your architecture will support them ! Part III asks you some answers about that !!
3) Don't be afraid to modify the Business model and Ucase if you are not agree.
For instance, I modified the itinerary-segment relationship and Prepare Itinerary Ucase !!
4) If you think (like me )that the PetStore MVC sucks ...change it !! Obviously, do not mention that
I also convince Sun expects you to be original...Put yourself if the examiner position who get used to read always the same MVC approach !!
If you think that it is too risky to change business model, ucase, not follow PetStore Model....well Sun grades me 99%...I might be right somewhere
Regards,
Kartik Shah
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posted 15 years ago
When is sun coming up with EJB 2.0 Exam ?
Is it sooner or in far future ?
Is it sooner or in far future ?
Kartik Shah
SCJP, SCDJWS, IBM Certified Websphere & XML, PMP & Six Sigma - http://blog.kartikshah.info
david chen
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posted 15 years ago
Hi Herve Attia,
Thank you very much for the info.
Yeah, when do you think Sun is coming up with project using EJB 2.0 specs?
How long does it usually take a person with mid-level programming experience to finish a given Part 2 project? (To whom who have taken Part 2, how long did it take you guys to finish it?)
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much for the info.
Yeah, when do you think Sun is coming up with project using EJB 2.0 specs?
How long does it usually take a person with mid-level programming experience to finish a given Part 2 project? (To whom who have taken Part 2, how long did it take you guys to finish it?)
Thank you very much.
herve attia
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posted 15 years ago
when do you think Sun is coming up with project using EJB 2.0 specs?
What I heard so far, it will happen within of this quarter. Actually, Sun is going to release a Certification Architect Book (written by Marc Cade who drives the SCEA).
How long does it usually take a person with mid-level programming experience to finish a given Part 2 project? (To whom who have taken Part 2, how long did it take you guys to finish it?)
For me , Part II took me 1 month, full time, 180 hours.
How long does it take ? this question is not related to your level programming experience but to the level of details of your architure !
This certification is overall architecture, not programming.
I read people who wanted to provide the database schema, detail application/system exceptions, show all EJB classes (home/remote/PK...). It is NOT a wrong approach...
...anyway, the perfect solution doesn't exist...
Regards,
when do you think Sun is coming up with project using EJB 2.0 specs?
What I heard so far, it will happen within of this quarter. Actually, Sun is going to release a Certification Architect Book (written by Marc Cade who drives the SCEA).
How long does it usually take a person with mid-level programming experience to finish a given Part 2 project? (To whom who have taken Part 2, how long did it take you guys to finish it?)
For me , Part II took me 1 month, full time, 180 hours.
How long does it take ? this question is not related to your level programming experience but to the level of details of your architure !
This certification is overall architecture, not programming.
I read people who wanted to provide the database schema, detail application/system exceptions, show all EJB classes (home/remote/PK...). It is NOT a wrong approach...
...anyway, the perfect solution doesn't exist...
Regards,
david chen
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posted 15 years ago
Hello herve attia,
You mentioned that This certification is overall architecture, not programming. Does this mean there is no programming and just pure architecture (design) in Part II?
One more question. I've read from this forum that Part III is just an essay regarding Part II. So ideally speaking, there is no need to do any extra reviewing/studying for Part III?
Thank you very very much.
You mentioned that This certification is overall architecture, not programming. Does this mean there is no programming and just pure architecture (design) in Part II?
One more question. I've read from this forum that Part III is just an essay regarding Part II. So ideally speaking, there is no need to do any extra reviewing/studying for Part III?
Thank you very very much.
herve attia
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posted 15 years ago
You mentioned that [b]This certification is overall architecture, not programming. Does this mean there is no programming and just pure architecture (design) in Part II?
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Yes. Pure Architecture.
One more question. I've read from this forum that Part III is just an essay regarding Part II. So ideally speaking, there is no need to do any extra reviewing/studying for Part III?
Yes. Part III is 4 questions concerning Part II only. No tricky questions. So you don't need to study again like Part I....but as soon as you have to upload your assignment...go to Part III...
Regards
You mentioned that [b]This certification is overall architecture, not programming. Does this mean there is no programming and just pure architecture (design) in Part II?
[/B]
Yes. Pure Architecture.
One more question. I've read from this forum that Part III is just an essay regarding Part II. So ideally speaking, there is no need to do any extra reviewing/studying for Part III?
Yes. Part III is 4 questions concerning Part II only. No tricky questions. So you don't need to study again like Part I....but as soon as you have to upload your assignment...go to Part III...
Regards
