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Need advice/Starting out

 
Geoffrey McCaleb
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Hi All,
Sorry for yet another post on someone starting out. I would really appreciate any guidance/tough love anyone can give.
I would like to start studying for the Architects certification. However, after numerous searches on Usenet I'm a bit worried about whether or not I am up to par with the prerequisites.
First off I have the study guide from Sun, and the book mentions it would be preferable to know Java or another OO language. However, I have heard from friends and Usenet that you can't get certification as an architect unless you have one as a developer first??
Secondly, and really the reason I am posting, I'm a bit worried I'm in over my head. I am not afraid of hard work, but with the skills I have can I do it?
UML & OOA/D concepts (decent -> solid), Design Patterns (decent), Ecapsulation & Polymorphism (decent...could be better), Java/JSP (ok -> decent, can write simple code and debug...), Servlets/Beans (decent), EJB (basic understanding).
Basically I am not a developer as you might guess (except for the early 90's when I did some stupid stuff in Pascal...). Now I am a Content Management/Porta Architect that sadly made the mistake to specialize recently in Vignette. I would like to think that I am damn good at what I do, but I know that people only see my Vignette work, and not the other cool systems I have architected. This might explain why I have been out of work for 6 months.
Anyway, if any of you could offer words of encouragement, critisism, or suggestions I would appreciate it.
Oh, one last thing, as I have *ahem* time on my hands, how long could someone really study properly for this (full time)?? Two, three months? More? Less?
Thanks again everyone,
Geoffrey
 
Rufus BugleWeed
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Should not be a problem, Geoffrey. Except that the bouncer, err bar tender, is going to give you the bum rush if you don't follow the JavaRanch user id rules.
If you have the skills you indicate and Sun's Study guide you well on your way.
The old rule was you had to be a developer before
you could take the architect exam. That's history.
Your story sounds similar to many of the rest of
us. Check out the jobs discussion forum if your
looking for some other lonely souls in the same
boat.
I've seen Java positions looking for people with
Vignette experience...
Best of luck. This sight has a great search engine.
Try reading the Passed Part I posts. The're full of clues about what you need to know.
You're going to need JMS too.
[ May 24, 2002: Message edited by: Rufus Bugleweed ]
 
Geoffrey McCaleb
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Hi,
Thanks for your help Rufus, I feel a bit better about going forward.
Would you recommend any other study guides other than the Sun book I have by Mark Cade/Simon Roberts?
Yeah there are still a few Vignette jobs left here in the UK. The thing though, Vignette using JSP/Tomcat is about as stable as a napkin. Not sure why they didn't think to port to Websphere or Weblogic (etc.). It in theory could be done...
Geoffrey McCaleb
 
Sanjay Raghavan
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Hi,
Let me try to answer your questions:
1. Are there any pre-reqs?
None other than an aptitude to learn!
2. Material?
The SUN study guide is a good reference material but certainly not comprehensive. Typically each chapter translates to a book + whitepapers you need to read.
Some books and stuff I referred:
1. EJB - O 'Reiley
2. Design Patterns - GoF (mostly), Applied Java Patterns, White Paper - Non Software examples (initially)
3. UML - Fowler
4. Common Arch and LEgacy Connectivity - Javorski's old SCJA cert book
5. General reference - Designing applications w/ J2EE technologies... (the SUN blueprints book)
6. The study material by John, Chris, Balaji, and who ever wrote the PDFs.
7. Constant interaction in the popular certification sites.
8. Various Mock exams (these I am yet to take)
9. white papers and turorials in SUN (especially for JMS, I18N...)
10. Other miscellaneous stuff (like security white papers from netscape, the firewalls white paper from 3Com, other material for P2P and Pub-Sub messaging..)
3. How long...
This is a difficult question to answer. Working on a full time job, studying roughly 12-15 hrs / week...I started on 4/1 and finished my first round of studying today...2 weeks of revision and I'm off to brave my fortunes.
Please visit my egroup if you get a chance. There are a few files and links you might find useful. You will also find links to all the other cert groups...the ranch is a great place, then there's Aaron's, Ian's, Prakhs and some others...
HTH.
 
Brian Glodde
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That's great advice, I am also on the road to Part I and just joined the SCEA group on Yahoo. Why are the SCEA links/FAQs not posted at the top of the group like the other study forums?
 
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