passed Part II/III with 76%
flying jordan
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vital kumar
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posted 14 years ago
Vital,
I disagree. Is it better to study 100 hours and pass with 99%, or study 75 hours and pass with 76%?
Ok so the relationship may not be linear - but it shows 'real intelligence' if you can judge that you have done enough study and are ready for the exam. Going the extra mile and getting high marks does not get extra kudos.
Ok, so now you are going to tell me that you spent months on the project and drew umpteen class diagrams?
Nice One
I disagree. Is it better to study 100 hours and pass with 99%, or study 75 hours and pass with 76%?
Ok so the relationship may not be linear - but it shows 'real intelligence' if you can judge that you have done enough study and are ready for the exam. Going the extra mile and getting high marks does not get extra kudos.
Ok, so now you are going to tell me that you spent months on the project and drew umpteen class diagrams?
Nice One
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Ashish Sarin
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posted 14 years ago
hi all,
I think the concept of "A Pass is a Pass" is not something that matters. Some people do spend less time and get a pass score & some people spend lot of time & even then they end up scoring less. I dont think ceritifications are means of giving you an upper edge anywhere in job because the thing that matters is that you did the certification & at the same time gained knowledge. When applying for a job your resume may get shortlisted but everything depends upon the interview & how you perform once you are in job.
My personal thinking is that the certifications should not be treated as a piece of hard paper that can help your resume to get shortlisted. Certifications are the means of learning new technologies & at the same time enhancing your skills. The % scored in the certification doesn't matter, but yes if you have spend time on it & tried to gain knowledge then it DOES MATTER. A guy with low score may be more knowledgeable than the one who scored more.
In my opinion " A pass is not a pass unless you have gained some knowledge by taking the certification exam "
regards,
ashish sarin
SCJP2,SCJD2,SCWCD,SCEA(Part I).... getting ready to take SCEA Part II & III ;-)
I think the concept of "A Pass is a Pass" is not something that matters. Some people do spend less time and get a pass score & some people spend lot of time & even then they end up scoring less. I dont think ceritifications are means of giving you an upper edge anywhere in job because the thing that matters is that you did the certification & at the same time gained knowledge. When applying for a job your resume may get shortlisted but everything depends upon the interview & how you perform once you are in job.
My personal thinking is that the certifications should not be treated as a piece of hard paper that can help your resume to get shortlisted. Certifications are the means of learning new technologies & at the same time enhancing your skills. The % scored in the certification doesn't matter, but yes if you have spend time on it & tried to gain knowledge then it DOES MATTER. A guy with low score may be more knowledgeable than the one who scored more.
In my opinion " A pass is not a pass unless you have gained some knowledge by taking the certification exam "
regards,
ashish sarin
SCJP2,SCJD2,SCWCD,SCEA(Part I).... getting ready to take SCEA Part II & III ;-)
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posted 14 years ago
Congratulations!
The most important thing is learning to emply the technology correctly, not everyone tests well. Situations are different and there is always a certain amount of subjectivity. However, it is nice to have a third party to affirm your competence. If it improves the way you work (day to day), that's what really counts.
I just took the exam (part I) on 8/8. Purchased the assignment on friday, but haven't gotten the authorization to download yet.
Can't wait to get started.
The most important thing is learning to emply the technology correctly, not everyone tests well. Situations are different and there is always a certain amount of subjectivity. However, it is nice to have a third party to affirm your competence. If it improves the way you work (day to day), that's what really counts.
I just took the exam (part I) on 8/8. Purchased the assignment on friday, but haven't gotten the authorization to download yet.
Can't wait to get started.
Byron Estes<br />Sun Certified Enterprise Architect<br />Senior Consulant<br />Blackwell Consulting Services<br />Chicago, IL<br /><a href="http://www.bcsinc.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.bcsinc.com</a>
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posted 14 years ago
Gerald, I don't totally agree with you. I don't think people should use this certificate to enter IT. This is an architect level certificate. For people trying to enter IT for the first job, they should focus on more fundamentals, coding, real world hand-on projects. For myself, I am already in IT for a few years. The purpose for me is to learn. For those who are trying to enter IT, if you don't show people your real world skills, even a 100% score doesn't help at all. Can you hire an architect without IT experience but with a 100 score certificate ?
As for if this is the toughest certificate, I am not sure. Personally I feel I spent more hours on SCJD certificate, I spent at least 100 hours on that SCJD project and get the certificate. But I spent less time on SCEA. However SCEA requires broader knowledge. So, it is hard to compare.
As for if this is the toughest certificate, I am not sure. Personally I feel I spent more hours on SCJD certificate, I spent at least 100 hours on that SCJD project and get the certificate. But I spent less time on SCEA. However SCEA requires broader knowledge. So, it is hard to compare.
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posted 14 years ago
I should also be happy to say I have earned all 4 java certificates: SCJP2 (82%), SCJD (96%), SCWCD (86%), SCEA (76%).
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posted 14 years ago
Flying, I have not had an IT job before, and of course, I am going to start as a lowly Systems-Programmer. However, having SCJD and SCJEA will help me to get that first job. Who knows I might get a job before getting my IT degree, which I will receive in 2 years from now. I am sure that a future employee will appreciate a programmer with a knowledge of UML (pictures say a thousand words), and J2EE. Flying I also want to get all 4 certifications, for me that means completing part II SCJEA and the easy SCWD.
p.s I wish, I had the name Flying, you Americans have cool names.
p.s I wish, I had the name Flying, you Americans have cool names.
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