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Kruger Scheitz
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do u all think it's a good idea to attend courses taught by SUN related to SCEA? i don't have any experience in EJB and but have knowledge in servlet and jsp. what do u think guyz?
 
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and the other thing that i need to know is how long does it normally takes to prepare part 1 in SCEA? i need to know coz i need to inform the prometric centre for the date of my part 1 exams
 
Eduard Manas
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Kruger,
Sun has very good courses and I'm sure you cannot be wrong taking them (as long as you either have enough money or you have an employer willing to pay!)
I did a Sun course on J2EE some time ago and I was quite happy with it. However, although the teacher knew the stuff quite well, he was an external trainer with little experience in J2EE. From my personal experience I think that Sun does not put any of their experts on training, but they just contract external trainers and cash the difference.
On the other hand, one of my colleagues attended the same course at BEA. His teacher was a J2EE expert with 1x years experience (since punch cards to web services). I can tell you he learnt more from him, because as well as course contents he was told plenty of hand-on tips, such as this is good in theory… but don’t even think about it in practice. On the top of that, he learnt how to use J2EE in Weblogic, something it doesn’t happen in Sun.
Another good place I have heard of is the Middleware Company (Ed Roman and Floyd Marinescu work in here, so it has to be good!). They are at www.middleware-company.com,
In conclusion, I think the course contents and organisation is very good, but you should also check what is the hand-on experience of your trainer-to-be.
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Kruger Scheitz
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thx man. did u pay for yourself regarding the j2ee course u took last time? =)
do you u think it's really worth to attend all those j2ee courses instead of learning those concept from the j2ee sites and get those tips in here or other forums?
 
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Take into account that each of these courses cost between �1500-�2000 (which for those not living in the UK, it can be converted to any currency as 'a hell of a lot!'). Therefore I don't advise to take those courses unless you have a 'cool' employer or plenty of money to spare.
The good thing of taking these courses is that they put you up to speed in 5 days. If you take an EJB course, you'll get all the theoritical knowledge you need to master EJBs. You'll still need the hands-on experience though, but you'll be a long way down the road.
On the other hand �1500 is a lot of money. You could buy as many J2EE books as you like, and still have enough money left to go to the Caribean for a week to read them all. However, the problem with this is that you need a lot of self-discipline not to spend all day down the beach instead of be reading your books...
Eduard
 
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thx Eduard
and one more thing is, how much time do i need to take to prepare for part 1 SCEA knowing that im not really familiar with j2ee. is 4 - 5 months enough with 5 hours a day are used to read up the fact ??
 
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