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SCEA - Just getting a paper or learn something?

 
Ali Hussain
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A mail that I received 3 days ago:


>From: "XXX@hotmail.com>
>To: XXX@hotmail.com
>Subject: Need help for SCEA
>Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:12:23 +0000
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>hi Qutub Shahi ,
>
> I am XXX who is doing SCEAPart 2. I am doing some research. I
>have read some of ur posts in javaranch forum, so I wanna take a
>look about ur diagram, but feel wonderfing why u lose mark, as I
>feel ur design keep brief, simple, and correct in ur diagram. If
>possbile, can you please send me a copy of them?
>Thank you!
>
>Regards,
>XXX
>
>


This one qualifies for the death penalty. if it was up to me
What is the point in getting certified? Just getting a paper or learn something?
[ August 15, 2005: Message edited by: Qutub Shahi ]
 
Theodore Casser
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*chuckles* There's always going to be people who want the easy way out.

Is it a paper or do you learn something? I would like to think that while I may not necessarily have "learned" something doing the SCEA Part II, I did gain some valuable experience thinking about how to separate the design portions of a project from the implementation. (Being a programmer, I found during the project that I tend to get too bogged down during design with thinking about how to implement. The project was good for breaking that bad habit.)

Most employers are smart enough to ask the questions that determine if it's just a paper or a genuine seal of approval on a candidate on a case-by-case basis. So I wouldn't worry about the question.
 
I Roberts
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I hope you replied in a good orderly fashion that explained the errors of his ways and then asked him to tell you his Sun student identifier so he can be blacklisted from [I assume] taking the easy path on this or any other exam.

I know too many people in the industry that feel that there are too many cases like this that have been undetected. People that have supposed to have passed the SCEA have failed in basic knowledge of EJB, a basic concept required in part one, and their witnesses have quickly decided that the SCEA is too over abused to be of any value.

Going back to my point, this is why people like him/her should be struck off as examples that true professionals want to use the exams for their true purpose; as measurements of achievement providing an indication of level of knowledge and experience within a specific subject matter.

I'm so glad no one sent me such an e-mail - god help them!
 
praveen kanakarajan
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its sad to see people using these ways. My ambition is also to become an architect.its tough for me as im still a novice in case of EJB(now learning ) ,i have been working in jsp and servlets in my career but i never intended to go for the shortcut because i think if i could prepare for the exam ill be learning EJB and also will help me in thinking much broader terms which is essential for a software professional who look to improve.I agree fully with those who had completed the exam and i respect their effort for clearing this exam.
 
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