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Part 1 - Dry?

 
Billy Bob
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So far, like most here I've obtained the SCJP and the SCWCD so the next logical step would be SCEA. I've picked up the Osborne Sun Certified Enterprise Architect for J2EE book but I'm having some difficulty getting into it. Other then memorizing a number of definitions there doesn't seem to be any "learning" component to it (1/2 way through ch 4). There seems to be a great deal of out dated tech and the info I've encountered so far is extremely dry.

Does this flow with other peoples experience and is it just one of those things you need to force into memory or is there something closer to a head first book that might be a more entertaining read?

I've never gotten used to the text heavy tech book and find them extremely tiring if they aren't written in an engaging manner. I'm assuming the patterns portion of the book will be more "captivating" but right at the moment its just a struggle to read through the bloody thing.

Can anyone give me an indication as to the degree of difficulty for part 1 (i.e. how does it compare to the SCWCD)? I've been developing for a while and the only concern I have is glazing over while I look at 20 definitions which will cause me to miss something.
 
Sreenivasa Majji
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Compare to SCJP and SCWD, SCEA is different, because there is very less to implement. Most of them kind of theory level questions, but if you are designing distributed applications, then SCEA makes sense. If you think in terms of programming point of view, there is very few you can do. SCEA concentrates more on concepts than implementations.
 
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Ok, I can confirm that the most of the chapters in that book leave you feeling dry and uninterested. Mix some Vodka, you might like it then ;-)

On a more serious note, a good way to prepare is to read forums, online articles (like on the Sun site), experiment with EJBs and UML in daily life and learn by practice and experience.

Just reading books will not help you much in real life, anyway. Its for the last minute crammer type questions that you have to go thru it at least once b4 the exam.

You can ignore 60% crap such books deliver (some of it is not even gramatically correct english). Learn the concepts instead and then work thru the rest (like scenarios etc) in your mind.

All the best.



Originally posted by Billy Bob:
So far, like most here I've obtained the SCJP and the SCWCD so the next logical step would be SCEA. I've picked up the Osborne Sun Certified Enterprise Architect for J2EE book but I'm having some difficulty getting into it. Other then memorizing a number of definitions there doesn't seem to be any "learning" component to it (1/2 way through ch 4). There seems to be a great deal of out dated tech and the info I've encountered so far is extremely dry.

Does this flow with other peoples experience and is it just one of those things you need to force into memory or is there something closer to a head first book that might be a more entertaining read?

I've never gotten used to the text heavy tech book and find them extremely tiring if they aren't written in an engaging manner. I'm assuming the patterns portion of the book will be more "captivating" but right at the moment its just a struggle to read through the bloody thing.

Can anyone give me an indication as to the degree of difficulty for part 1 (i.e. how does it compare to the SCWCD)? I've been developing for a while and the only concern I have is glazing over while I look at 20 definitions which will cause me to miss something.
 
Erik Brakkee
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Hi,


I did part 1 of SCEA after doing SCWCD and SCBCD. Because of this I was a little bit annoyed that the SCEA part 1 is about ancient technology (EJB 1.1) instead of EJB 2.0.

Even more annoying since you really need to go back in time to answer questions about when to use BMP instead of CMP. This gives me a strange feeling considering that BMP is considered so irrelevant by SUN these days that it is not even part of the SCBCD.

Oh well, part 2 is better because there you can at least use any version of the J2EE spec.

Cheers
Erik
 
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