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Gerard Moloney
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Hi all,

I have just sat the SCJP 5.0, in a few days am sitting the SCWCD1.4.

The question I have is should I wait for a new versions of the SCEA/SCBCD exams or should I sit the present one.

Does anybody know when the new version of SCEA (or even the SCBCD) is out, and what procedures would be to upgrade to later release of the SCEA exam when released?

I do not want to go back and study out of date J2EE releases. What are peoples opinions in this area???

Mainly its in relation to the SCEA, but the question applies also to the SCBCD 1.3


Peer Reynders
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Rumor has it that a new version of the SCBCD (update to EJB3) may be coming up in the fall:
SCBCD 1.3 TO 1.4 !!!

You didn't mention any previous industry experience in Java (EE) or otherwise, so I'm guessing you are pretty new to all this.
Despite of what you may be seeing around here I would advise against rushing head first into an SCEA.
Nobody can stop you doing the SCEA (or SCBCD 1.3) now but in my judgment that would be of limited use and a waste of your time.

You are probably better off spending your time familiarizing yourself with EJB3 so that you are ready to take the updated SCBCD when it comes out. By that time we may know whether the SCEA will be updated (and when) to Java EE 5.

There are constant discussions whether an "Enterprise Architect" certification is necessarily linked to a particular version of Java EE. Consider this:
  • In my personal opinion "Sun Certified Enterprise Architect" is a total misnomer. "Sun Certified Enterprise Solution Designer" (SCEDS) would be closer to the truth. How can you be certified as an Enterprise Architect and never see a reference to the Zachman Framework (An Agile Approach to the Zachman Framework, Agile Enterprise Architecture) or one of its derivatives? An Enterprise Architect doesn't just deal with Java EE and an EA is certainly not restricted to the Sun Microsystems tool set.
  • The assignment was optimized to show off Java 2 Enterprise Edition 1.1 in the best of light as it was perceived way back in 2000(?) (there is always a marketing component to these certifications). The industry's romance with EJB (up to and including 2.1) has been over for a while. Hopefully the assignment for the next SCEA will be updated to include new challenges that can be appropriately addressed with more recent solutions. Right now you simply have the option (in part 2) of using up-to-date technologies on a problem that may not be representative of the challenges that todays organizations face.
  • To make things worse, despite the non-disclosure agreement, the current assignment has been chewed to death on various locations on the internet over the past few years. So you don't even get decent "bragging rights" with the SCEA anymore. The truth is that just about anyone can cobble together a solution based on the material found in the various locations. A new assignment will change that � at least initially.

  • Personally I'm sitting this one out - I'll reassess once the Java EE 5 version of the SCEA is out. I feel that in the more immediate future my time is better spent by getting acquainted with Hibernate and Spring and non-Java things like Ruby (on Rails) and getting (re)-acquainted with some programmer testing, software process, design, re-engineering, and project management subject matter.
    Consider Paul's rocket mass heater.
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