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To EJB 1.1 or not to EJB 1.1 ...

 
Frederik Dierickx
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Hi all,

I've been considering to get SCEA certified for some time now but the thing that bugs me is the focus on EJB 1.1. I've been developing and designing J2EE applications since early 2002. Up to now, I never had to do anything with EJB and don't regret this given the fact that EJB 1.1/2.x is proven to be amongst the least productive technologies in the J2EE stack.
Sure, it's been misused a lot and does have it's right to exist for certain problems (think CMT with distributed objects for example). On the other hand, given today's reality, I wonder if it's still worth it to study a legacy technologie such as EJB 1.1/EJB 2.x just to become SCEA certified. What do you guys think?
Are there any updates for the SCEA exam planned considering JEE 5 has become final? It would definitely seem like a more appropriate usage of time.

Any thoughts appreciated...

Frederik
[ September 27, 2006: Message edited by: Frederik Dierickx ]
 
sanchit raizada
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There is a need for some sections of Certification exam content to upgraded. Truely, it make more sense to read about current/new technologies rather than legacy just for SCE'A' certification. (A->architect)
 
Theodore Casser
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Firstly... one thing to bear in mind is that you can use any released version of Java EE for the Part II project, which means allowing for EJB 3.0 and the like if you so choose. You're not constrained to using J2EE 1.2 and EJB 1.1 for the design portion of the activity, if that helps to allay any concerns about the exam.

I do agree, as well, that the Part I exam needs to be updated to take into account the items that have changed since it was first released. However, the basic aim of it - to ensure that you have a baseline knowledge of what EE is about - is still a valid one. (And it's also probably good, for working with legacy systems, to understand the tech anyway, though the update would be nice.)
 
Mihai Lihatchi
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Some people (like myself) are doing the EJB2.0 certification .. just to grasp the concepts for the SCEA exam .
For instance at work I am usually focused on Spring+Hibernate applications.
But in order to take design decisions you should know you alternatives IMHO.

OTOH .. EJB1.1 is a bit extreme .. an upgrade of this section to the EJB3.0 standard would be appropriate.
Hope this will be done untill next year when I am planning the SCEA preparation and exam.
[ September 28, 2006: Message edited by: Mihai Lihatchi ]
 
Deiveehan Nallazhagappan
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Hi.. Even I was not comfortable with learning EJB 1.1
Just because I need a certification, does'nt mean that I want to read something which I will not be using at all.

I knew EJB 2.0 and even EJB 3.0. I din learn anything about EJB 1.1, but managed to get full score in EJB part. My suggestion would be learn the concepts of EJB and some differences between EJB 1.0 and EJB 2.x

It would be great if we could get an exam on JEE 1.5 (the same thing needs to be done for SCBCD as well).
 
Frederik Dierickx
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Thank you all for your valuable input. It is surely my intention to get SCEA certified within a reasonable manner of time. However, I'll be focusing on keeping up-to-date with more recent technologies (Spring 2, Hibernate 3 & JEE 5) as these are more in demand nowadays. And that's both for architecting and developing applications.

In the meantime I hope there'll be an update of the SCEA exam to JEE 5. If not, I'll bite the bullet and spend some time on this legacy thing called EJB 1.1/2.x.

Does anyone have any clue or schedule if an update of the SCEA exam to JEE 5 is planned? For pt. 1 that is, as you are free to use whatever you want for pt. 2 & pt. 3? It might help the adoption of JEE 5 as well I guess...
 
Junior Jetty
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I have been thinking about using EJB 3 for the solution but I am still not sure. The Sun website merely says any released version of J2EE Api, I tried contacting Sun to confirm if JEE 5 was OK but got no reply. Anyone on this forum attempting the part II using EJB 3 ?
 
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