Best books and reference material
Art Smith
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posted 14 years ago
Hi:
Other than the EJB2.0 spec - as availble for download from sun, what are the best, most concise ejb references available that will cover what we need for the beta exam.
I know there are no study guides yet, but, which ejb books are you (the ejb beta testing public) studing for this exam?
Other than the EJB2.0 spec - as availble for download from sun, what are the best, most concise ejb references available that will cover what we need for the beta exam.
I know there are no study guides yet, but, which ejb books are you (the ejb beta testing public) studing for this exam?
Arthur Smith<br />SCJP2 - SCWCD
Andrew Perepelytsya
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posted 14 years ago
I'm afraid I'm repeating what had been said many times before, but:
1. O'Reilly. Enterprise JavaBeans 3rd Edition by R.Monson-Haefel - I can definitely say that if you haven't read this Book, you cannot call yourself a serious EJB developer
2. Wiley & Sons, Mastering Enterpise JavaBeans by Ed Roman from Middleware Company. A perfect pair for the book above, whatever people say about MC. My opinion, and my fellow colleagues' - this book delves into some other subjects O'Reilly book doesn't, and is generally providing a more verbose and friendly coverage on some subjects(but o'relly's is still the best
)
Well, that's generally it. I read many more big and thick books on EJB, but none of them could not compare to these two. (sorry all the authors
)
My practice was, after reading those two, your best bet is the spec itself, no time for introductionary texts.
And, though, it's possible to pass exam just by studying (not recommended), experience gives you the inside-out knowledge of EJB, which none of the books can.
Hope this helps
1. O'Reilly. Enterprise JavaBeans 3rd Edition by R.Monson-Haefel - I can definitely say that if you haven't read this Book, you cannot call yourself a serious EJB developer
2. Wiley & Sons, Mastering Enterpise JavaBeans by Ed Roman from Middleware Company. A perfect pair for the book above, whatever people say about MC. My opinion, and my fellow colleagues' - this book delves into some other subjects O'Reilly book doesn't, and is generally providing a more verbose and friendly coverage on some subjects(but o'relly's is still the best
)Well, that's generally it. I read many more big and thick books on EJB, but none of them could not compare to these two. (sorry all the authors
)My practice was, after reading those two, your best bet is the spec itself, no time for introductionary texts.
And, though, it's possible to pass exam just by studying (not recommended), experience gives you the inside-out knowledge of EJB, which none of the books can.
Hope this helps
Andrew Perepelytsya
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posted 14 years ago
Yes, and I found useful some 'nutshell' pdf notes for EJB, which you can find in the scea_j2ee yahoo group. (You should register to gain access to the files). Many of them provide a digested view over specs and javadocs.
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Kathy Sierra
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posted 14 years ago
Howdy,
Yes, for the exam I recommend the Reference Implementation (RI), unless you already have something up and running.
Most production (i.e. REAL) app servers are more challenging to configure and get running than the RI, and the RI will behave exactly as you need it to for learning, testing, experimenting, and developing beans. It conforms to the specification, and you can get a lot from it.
cheers,
Kathy
(and did I mention, for the 10th time, that I'm running it on my Mac Titanium? )
Not that I'm a Mac fanatic or anything , but there's an article from Games Gosling about how he works on a Mac Powerbook, and how all the engineers at Sun are starting to get Macs now that you've got Unix in there...
new James Gosling article on Java and the Mac
Yes, for the exam I recommend the Reference Implementation (RI), unless you already have something up and running.
Most production (i.e. REAL) app servers are more challenging to configure and get running than the RI, and the RI will behave exactly as you need it to for learning, testing, experimenting, and developing beans. It conforms to the specification, and you can get a lot from it.
cheers,
Kathy
(and did I mention, for the 10th time, that I'm running it on my Mac Titanium?
) Not that I'm a Mac fanatic or anything
, but there's an article from Games Gosling about how he works on a Mac Powerbook, and how all the engineers at Sun are starting to get Macs now that you've got Unix in there...new James Gosling article on Java and the Mac
Kathy Sierra
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posted 14 years ago
Howdy,
Yes, for the exam I recommend the Reference Implementation (RI), unless you already have something up and running.
Most production (i.e. REAL) app servers are more challenging to configure and get running than the RI, and the RI will behave exactly as you need it to for learning, testing, experimenting, and developing beans. It conforms to the specification, and you can get a lot from it.
cheers,
Kathy
(and did I mention, for the 10th time, that I'm running it on my Mac Titanium? )
Not that I'm a Mac fanatic or anything , but there's an article from Games Gosling about how he works on a Mac Powerbook, and how all the engineers at Sun are starting to get Macs now that you've got Unix in there...
new James Gosling article on Java and the Mac
Yes, for the exam I recommend the Reference Implementation (RI), unless you already have something up and running.
Most production (i.e. REAL) app servers are more challenging to configure and get running than the RI, and the RI will behave exactly as you need it to for learning, testing, experimenting, and developing beans. It conforms to the specification, and you can get a lot from it.
cheers,
Kathy
(and did I mention, for the 10th time, that I'm running it on my Mac Titanium?
) Not that I'm a Mac fanatic or anything
, but there's an article from Games Gosling about how he works on a Mac Powerbook, and how all the engineers at Sun are starting to get Macs now that you've got Unix in there...new James Gosling article on Java and the Mac
Al Newman
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posted 14 years ago
For the exam I'd put the Ed Roman book on the top of the pile with the Monson-Haefel book a ways back. Seems to me that the Roman book conforms to the specification quite a bit more than Monson-Haefel does.
For an implementation book much depends upon which App Server you are preparing with. For the RI you could do way worse than the Sun J2EE Tutorial, whether online or dead tree version doesn't much matter. Another decent Ri title is EJB 2.1 Kick Start, seems like.
For BEA Weblogic Server 7.0 the combination of Monson-Haefel book and the Weblogic 6.1 workbook isn't bad and I'm fond of Zuffaletto's
Weblogic 6.1 Bible.
[ May 22, 2003: Message edited by: Alfred Neumann ]
For an implementation book much depends upon which App Server you are preparing with. For the RI you could do way worse than the Sun J2EE Tutorial, whether online or dead tree version doesn't much matter. Another decent Ri title is EJB 2.1 Kick Start, seems like.
For BEA Weblogic Server 7.0 the combination of Monson-Haefel book and the Weblogic 6.1 workbook isn't bad and I'm fond of Zuffaletto's
Weblogic 6.1 Bible.
[ May 22, 2003: Message edited by: Alfred Neumann ]
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Mehul Jasani
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Kathy Sierra
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posted 14 years ago
Howdy,
Here you go:
J2EE download page
Be sure you get the 1.3.1 release (I think it's the second one down, after the SunOne app server).
If you need help setting it up, let us know.
I used the linux version for my mac.
cheers,
Kathy
Here you go:
J2EE download page
Be sure you get the 1.3.1 release (I think it's the second one down, after the SunOne app server).
If you need help setting it up, let us know.
I used the linux version for my mac.
cheers,
Kathy
Co-Author of Head First Design Patterns
Just a Jini girl living in a J2EE world.
Gustavo Torreti
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Andrew Perepelytsya
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Art Smith
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posted 14 years ago
Thanks for all of the relys. I've had mixed results with the O'Riely Books - some are good, some not, so I thought it best to ask.
I'll give it try.
As for an app server, I'm gonna test my stuff against Oracles 9iasR2 Java Edition - mostly since its already up and running and I know how to administer it.
I'll give it try.
As for an app server, I'm gonna test my stuff against Oracles 9iasR2 Java Edition - mostly since its already up and running and I know how to administer it.
Arthur Smith<br />SCJP2 - SCWCD
Mark Fletcher
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posted 14 years ago
Hmm... if some of Suns own engineers are turning to Apple products that speaks volumes for Suns own Workstations
Originally posted by Kathy Sierra:
Not that I'm a Mac fanatic or anything
new James Gosling article on Java and the Mac
Hmm... if some of Suns own engineers are turning to Apple products that speaks volumes for Suns own Workstations
Mark Fletcher - http://www.markfletcher.org/blog
I had some Java certs, but they're too old now...
eric mcentee
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posted 14 years ago
I'd have to also recommend "Mastering Enterpise JavaBeans" by Ed Roman.
I took the EJB for Architects class from MC, and bought this book to supplement my work materials (EJB Design Patterns is also good, but probably not needed for this test). It has some great topics on persistance, CMP, BMP, message driven beans, etc.
I just got the email yesterday, and will probably be looking at this book and this forum as my main resources. I've been a J2EE developer for a little over two years, but I've found that poor performance in some respects prohibitive to what we are doing (with regards to Entity Beans and DataWarehouses). But I'm hoping that experience and reading this book again over the next four weeks will get me up to speed and ready for a shot at the Beta.
[ June 02, 2003: Message edited by: eric mcentee ]
I took the EJB for Architects class from MC, and bought this book to supplement my work materials (EJB Design Patterns is also good, but probably not needed for this test). It has some great topics on persistance, CMP, BMP, message driven beans, etc.
I just got the email yesterday, and will probably be looking at this book and this forum as my main resources. I've been a J2EE developer for a little over two years, but I've found that poor performance in some respects prohibitive to what we are doing (with regards to Entity Beans and DataWarehouses). But I'm hoping that experience and reading this book again over the next four weeks will get me up to speed and ready for a shot at the Beta.
[ June 02, 2003: Message edited by: eric mcentee ]
