Coffee Cream on EB - Mistakes/Doubts #4

[alzamabar]

Given the following question:

Which additional method(s) might the container call when invoking ejbRemove()?

A. ejbFind()
B. ejbLoad()
C. ejbStore()
D. ejbActivate()
E. ejbPassivate()

I answered B, D, E - The book gave B, D

HF teaches us that when an entity is removed, the entity bean dies, but the entity bean instance is moved back to the pool. Doesn't this mean that after ejbRemove() the container might invoke ejbPassivate to move the bean instance back to the pool?

[Valentin Crettaz]

First of all, the statement doesn't even mention that the question is about entity beans. The fact that all options are methods in the EntityBean interface doesn't mean anything... Moreover, it is not clear at all what "when invoking ejbRemove()" means. Is it just before or just after the invocation... This question needs serious rework in my opinion.

Well, let's assume we are talking about entity beans and that the question asks which methods can be invoked after ejbRemove(). If you have a quick look at my bean lifecycle cheatsheet (page 1), you'll see that after ejbRemove() the container can invoke ejbFind<METHOD>(), ejbSelect<METHOD>(), ejbActivate(), ejbPostCreate<METHOD>(), ejbHome<METHOD>() and unsetEntityContext(). From the available options, only D is correct. A is wrong since the method name does not include some arbitrary suffix (aka <METHOD> .

[Eusebio Floriano]

Originally posted by Marco Tedone:
Given the following question:

HF teaches us that when an entity is removed, the entity bean dies, but the entity bean instance is moved back to the pool. Doesn't this mean that after ejbRemove() the container might invoke ejbPassivate to move the bean instance back to the pool?

Nopes ... According with spec at page 169

Eventually, the container will transition the instance to the pooled state. There are three possible
transitions from the ready to the pooled state: through the ejbPassivate() method,
through the ejbRemove() method, and because of a transaction rollback for ejbCreate(),
ejbPostCreate(), or ejbRemove() (not shown in Figure 23). The container
invokes the ejbPassivate() method when the container wants to disassociate the
instance from the entity object identity without removing the entity object. The container
invokes the ejbRemove() method when the container is removing the entity object (i.e.,
when the client invoked the remove() method on the entity object�s component interface or a
remove() method on the entity bean�s home interface).

So, the bean goes from ready state to pooled state by ejbRemove OR ejbPassivate.

Originally posted by Valentin Crettaz:
First of all, the statement doesn't even mention that the question is about entity beans. The fact that all options are methods in the EntityBean interface doesn't mean anything... Moreover, it is not clear at all what "when invoking ejbRemove()" means. Is it just before or just after the invocation... This question needs serious rework in my opinion.

I agree with you

Originally posted by Valentin Crettaz:

Well, let's assume we are talking about entity beans and that the question asks which methods can be invoked after ejbRemove(). If you have a quick look at my bean lifecycle cheatsheet (page 1), you'll see that after ejbRemove() the container can invoke ejbFind<METHOD>(), ejbSelect<METHOD>(), ejbActivate(), ejbPostCreate<METHOD>(), ejbHome<METHOD>() and unsetEntityContext(). From the available options, only D is correct. A is wrong since the method name does not include some arbitrary suffix (aka <METHOD> .

I disagree ... According with spec ta page 172

The container invokes the ejbRemove() method on an entity bean instance in response to a
client-invoked remove operation on the entity bean�s home or component interface or as the
result of a cascade-delete operation. The instance is in the ready state when ejbRemove() is
invoked and it will be entered into the pool when the method completes.

If the cascaded-delete bean were not activated, the container would called ejbActivate then ejbLoad because the bean must be in the ready state to be removed.
ejbStore wasn�t necessary because the bean�s state wasn�t changed.

Regards
[ August 09, 2004: Message edited by: Vinicius Boson ]

[alzamabar]

Originally posted by Valentin Crettaz:
First of all, the statement doesn't even mention that the question is about entity beans. The fact that all options are methods in the EntityBean interface doesn't mean anything... Moreover, it is not clear at all what "when invoking ejbRemove()" means. Is it just before or just after the invocation... This question needs serious rework in my opinion.

Well, let's assume we are talking about entity beans and that the question asks which methods can be invoked after ejbRemove(). If you have a quick look at my bean lifecycle cheatsheet (page 1), you'll see that after ejbRemove() the container can invoke ejbFind<METHOD>(), ejbSelect<METHOD>(), ejbActivate(), ejbPostCreate<METHOD>(), ejbHome<METHOD>() and unsetEntityContext(). From the available options, only D is correct. A is wrong since the method name does not include some arbitrary suffix (aka <METHOD> .

So, if we are talking about entity beans, when ejbRemove() is invoked, is the bean instance put in the pool without ejbPassivate being invoked?

Marco

[alzamabar]

Originally posted by Valentin Crettaz:

If you have a quick look at my bean lifecycle cheatsheet (page 1),

Valentin, probably I'm interpreting wrongly your document, but from page 1 it seems that ejbActivate/ejbPassivate cannot get a reference to EJB[Local]Home, while we know that entity bean can, from within those methods, get a reference to their home interface. Am I missing something?

[Eusebio Floriano]

Originally posted by Marco Tedone:


So, if we are talking about entity beans, when ejbRemove() is invoked, is the bean instance put in the pool without ejbPassivate being invoked?

Marco

yeah ... ejbPassivate is not invoked.

[Valentin Crettaz]

Valentin, probably I'm interpreting wrongly your document, but from page 1 it seems that ejbActivate/ejbPassivate cannot get a reference to EJB[Local]Home, while we know that entity bean can, from within those methods, get a reference to their home interface. Am I missing something?

Basically, a method is considered to be in all areas below it. For instance, newInstance is nowhere. setEntityContext is in the fuschia area. ejbCreate<METHOD>() is in the blue AND fuschia areas. ejbRemove() is in the blue AND yellow AND fuschia areas. ejbActivate/ejbPassivate are in the yellow area (access to getEJB(Local)Object() + getPrimaryKey()) which is surrounded by a fuschia area (access to getEJB(Local)Home() + JNDI).
I hope this makes sense.