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Hema Menon
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From April 2002 Java E-Newsletter from Prentice Hall PTR

<quote>
* Java Ranch raves about
ADVANCED JAVA 2 PLATFORM HOW TO PROGRAM
Java Ranch raves about
ADVANCED JAVA 2 PLATFORM HOW TO PROGRAM
by Harvey M. Deitel, Paul J. Deitel, and Sean E. Santry
"...As complete a coverage of the Java platform as one can get. Each
chapter briefly explains the Java technology it covers and then shows
you how it is used. Every listing is explained in detail. I find the
explanations clear and easy to understand. ... Their case studies are
relevant and can be used as a great resource for your own projects at
home and at work. ... Considering the pure volume of the example code
you will forgive me that I did not install and try it all. But what
I've played around with compiled and worked perfectly. The accompanying
CD is a gem. Other authors should use it as an example to see how it
should be done. I was especially impressed by the installation
instructions for the accompanying software; clear, precise and accurate.
Yep I have to say something about it. I love the color they use
extensively in the book. It makes the reading of listings especially
easy. This book must be one of the most complete Java books available
at the moment. I highly recommend it...."
For the full review:
http://www.javaranch.com/bunkhouse/bunkhouseAdvanced.jsp
For more info on the book:
http://www.phptr.com/ptrbooks/ptr_0130895601.html
<unquote>

Publishers seems to be quoting JavaRanch reviews. I take it as another recognition to the ranch
Later,
Hema
[ April 29, 2002: Message edited by: Menon Hema ]
 
Thomas Paul
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I wonder if they asked permission to use the quote.
 
Cindy Glass
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I don't think that they NEED permission as long as they give full credit to the source.
 
Thomas Paul
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Originally posted by Cindy Glass:
I don't think that they NEED permission as long as they give full credit to the source.
Actually they do. At the bottom of every page it says: copyright 1999-2002 Paul Wheaton.
 
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I thought all original works were copyrighted even without the explicit copyright notice.
 
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good decision!!
 
Thomas Paul
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Originally posted by herb slocomb:
I thought all original works were copyrighted even without the explicit copyright notice.
That is absolutely true! If Prentice Hall did this without permission they owe JavaRanch an apology.
 
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I think it is debatable whether a copyright was violated. After all, they did completely site the source.
For me, the bottom line is that they mentioned us. I don't really see a down side here.
I have had my stuff plagerized in the past: people putting their names to my creations. And that made me mad.
But this is nothing like that.
Therefore, I have decreed that I do not care about this at this moment, but I reserve the right to throw a hissy fit later
 
Hema Menon
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I too think in terms of what Paul had to say. The fact that they consider Javaranch reviews worthy enought to be quoted to all, thru email, does by itself, brings in more attention to the ranch. However I wouldn't mind, them stopping by the ranch and promoting the book more by having some giveaways!
Later,
Hema
 
Thomas Paul
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Originally posted by Paul Wheaton:
I think it is debatable whether a copyright was violated. After all, they did completely site the source.

If I quote the contents of a Prentice Hall book is it OK if I cite them as my source?
(Thomas - I accidently edited this post - when I thought that I hit "reply with quote". I don't think that I repaired it quite right- sorry)
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Angela Poynton
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Ahh but if it was a quote from a review that came about because they sent us a review copy of the book then I don't think we should get uppity about it.
 
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Actually Thomas they did ask if I was prepared to publish the review on Amazon for them. I posted a thread on it on MO where I asked the other moderators if it was OK that I did it, cant find it right now
So they did "sort of" asked permission.
My personal opinion is that, as long as they do quote the source of the review I definitely don't have a problem with it regardless of the fact that they provide the book.
Its quite funny, nearly eerie, to see one's words like that on another site though !!!.
[ May 01, 2002: Message edited by: Johannes de Jong ]
 
Thomas Paul
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I agree that it's not a big deal. I just think that asking is the courteous thing to do. But it seems that courteousness is not considered much of a virtue anymore.
 
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
If I quote the contents of a Prentice Hall book is it OK if I cite them as my source?

I SURE hope so because there are an awful lot of quotes from Joshua Block, Bruce Eckel, Peter van der Linden, etc. floating around these here forums :roll: .
An while we are quite careful to mention the author we almost NEVER mention the publisher. In this case they were careful to mention JavaRanch and didn't mention Johannes de Jong at all. If anyone should complain - it would be HIM.
And YES - we did send them a note letting them know that their book's review was selected as "Book Review of the Month"
 
Thomas Paul
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Originally posted by Cindy Glass:

I SURE hope so because there are an awful lot of quotes from Joshua Block, Bruce Eckel, Peter van der Linden, etc. floating around these here forums :roll:
Partial use of a portion of a book is considered fair use. It's like those ads for movies, "Best... movie... ever" - LA Times. But if they wanted to quote the entire review they would need permission. Same way if I wanted to quote a line or two from a book, that is OK but if I quoted the entire book then we would have a problem. In this case, they quoted nearly the entire review except for a line at the end that wasn't as complimentary as the rest of the review.
 
Hema Menon
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Looks like this is going to be a constant thing from Prentice Hall newsletters. May 2002, email newsletter has "Javaranch reviews" for "Core JINI". They have given an excerpt for the ranch review and the link to the bunkhouse.
Later,
Hema
 
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