Originally posted by Dave Lenton:
Essentially (and I haven't read the book in a while, so I may be remembering this wrong - Dawkins explains it much better then I could.) his idea is something along the lines of simple molecules forming into self replicating patterns as the starting point of evolution. He gives some examples of this - it is something which can happen fairly often in seemingly chaotic situations.
Originally posted by Dave Lenton:
There aren't many - there is exactly one species of Homo Sapians and it is Homo Sapiens. It is one of the greatest tragedies in human history that humanity has often been classified into seperate races - we're all the same!
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Originally posted by Devesh H Rao:
run through the list of famous atheists and then continue...
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Originally posted by R K Singh:
I apologies, but in medical terms answer would be NO.
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But as far as planets in some far off galaxy, pictures are not facts. Nobody knows anything about those places. It's all based on assumptions and "faith."
There are only two hard things in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-one errors
There are only two hard things in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-one errors
Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
[Devesh Rao]: I would not like to get into that debate with you ... coz I do not think the outcome of that debate will anyhow add value to this thread.
Indeed. That was I point I tried to make before you tossed out your dubious list of names. Your contribution hasn't helped in that respect. And oddly, you continue to talk about it even after saying you don't want to debate it. Look, you can google "hitler atheist" and find many discussions and collections of contradictory quotations to muddy the waters. Enjoy. But can't we drop it here? Same for other lists of names and historical atrocities?
I would not like to get into that debate with you ... coz I do not think the outcome of that debate will anyhow add value to this thread. I put in that post just to draw attention to that "fact" that blaming religion for all the ills is not that fair, A person who is religious today may turn an atheist and then religious again. And in the persons may have had a share of good and bad deeds. so what does that make of the person.
PS: why did religion even get dragged into the discussion.... God != Religion.
There is evidence to prove that religion has got more threads thrashed on MD than anything else and that is a fact so can we not go down that line please.
PS: Dave, I was curious about the point you mentioned about hitler being religious. I have read a bit of history around that times and also his memoirs. I all the time till now used to think his hatred was driven by his own devils and religion was not one of them. maybe I was wrong or have not read enough
Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
[Devesh Rao]: We also have lots of proof that events surrounding an entity get set into motion by a entity of superior-intelligence acting as a catalyst.
Um, proof? Does that word have a new meaning here that I don't know about? Perhaps you meant "evidence"? Which is, even then, quite arguable, but mostly it boils down to whether you consider the a priori probability of a pre-existing "superior intelligence" to be high or low compared to random chance, and whether you think that a theory should be able to account for the existence of the superior intelligence or not.
If we consider software to be some kind of primary intelligence, humans created it. if we consider single celled organisms created in "labs" as some kind of intelligence, again humans created it so on and so forth.
One last comment... Everyone knows that life began on Earth when the Jagaroth ship explodes on takeoff, several million years ago.
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Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
[b][Devesh Rao]: So you're saying there can be a superior intelligence acting as catalyst, not that there must be one, is that right?
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Originally posted by Fred Rosenberger:
so, medically speaking, what is there beside Homo Sapiens?
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