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Keith Owen
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Check out these threads:
Why CGI?
Why Javaranch is using CGI instead of Servlets?
Hope that explains things a bit.
 
Keith Owen
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Thank you.
So who wants to help me develop an opensource bulletin board package with JSP/Servlets ?
 
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check this out -->
http://www.jivesoftware.com/
something we're working toward moving to.
 
Keith Owen
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that is nice, but not free or opensource. i think i will actually attempt this. it can't be *too* hard with some help.
... just as soon as I finish raising clrscr() from the dead with some JNI per a post in the Java Beginner Forum.
-Keith
 
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Jive is nice and the fact that it is not free or opensource is certainly not a killer reason for not using it (UBB is certainly not free).
Creating a Java/JSP discssion system is certainly achievable and not rocket science, more a large and time consuming task. There are several nice PHP based systems that are GPL and would be good for inspiration (phpBB and phorum spring to mind)
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Please continue these discussions in the Javaranch forum.
That's where we discuss most matters related to this forum.
Thanks.
- madhav
 
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Kieth,
You may wish to have a look at the Meinds project (formerly Give) at http://meinds.sourceforge.net/ .
They were working on the "development of Open Source Forum software starting with the source code from Jive 1.2.4." The project seems to have stopped on Septemer 11, 2001.
Good Luck.
 
Thomas Paul
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Jive was open source at one time but they have since gone corporate. The code was pretty crappy last time I looked at it.
[ May 22, 2002: Message edited by: Thomas Paul ]
 
Keith Owen
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Indeed it seems that a quality, free, and opensource JSP/Servlets forum package would be of great interest to at least some.
Thanks to all for your suggestions on where to get ideas. Anyone who wishes to be part of the project, please feel free to send me a private message.
-Keith
 
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I don't know why, for the life of me, we don't just repeat the right answer: we're not here for the purpose of developing all things in Java. We're a friendly place for Java greenhorns. To that end, we use whatever tools are handy.
I get the same question in various contexts: for example, why doesn't Sun use its own tools for everything? Believe it or not, it's supposed to be a sign of good health that you're not stuck to certain tools merely because they represent right-thinking. It's supposed to be a good thing that your organization doesn't suffer from NIH (not-invented-here) Syndrome, or in this case NWIJ Syndrome.
Don't mistake the love for Java on this site with the mandate for using only tools based on Java technology. Evangelists or not, we use what works and what gets us to our primary goal: passing on (mostly Java) knowledge and having a good time doing it.
[ May 22, 2002: Message edited by: Michael Ernest ]
 
Keith Owen
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The replies I had already received were completely acceptable. I was only curious as to why this site chose not to go with a pure java solution and I received my answer.
While I agree with you that being stuck on one particular technology is certainly a bad thing, if Sun (or anyone else for that matter) chooses to display proprietary information using non-proprietary, competitive tools, they are promoting the use of said tools and demoting the use of their own. I am certainly not frowning upon JavaRanch for their choice of BBS software, but I do think it would be a testiment to Java's capabilities if the entire site were Java-driven.
-Keith
 
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Originally posted by Keith Owen:
I am certainly not frowning upon JavaRanch for their choice of BBS software, but I do think it would be a testiment to Java's capabilities if the entire site were Java-driven.
-Keith
So maybe the Saloon is a testament to Perl's capabilities!
 
Keith Owen
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So maybe the Saloon is a testament to Perl's capabilities!

that it is ... and a darn good one, too!
-Keith
 
Michael Ernest
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Originally posted by Keith Owen:
While I agree with you that being stuck on one particular technology is certainly a bad thing, if Sun (or anyone else for that matter) chooses to display proprietary information using non-proprietary, competitive tools, they are promoting the use of said tools and demoting the use of their own.

Maybe so, but if the effects of that promotion/demotion really mattered, you wouldn't see it happening as often as it does. How many servlet implementations do you see across Sun's various sites?
 
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