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Debashish Chakrabarty
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Hi,

A very generic question that might be in the minds of most of us. I have noticed that for SCEA there is no natural path of progression assumed, you don't even have to be a SCJP to write SCEA. But do you think that for a programmer to really do justice to the exams and his career the path should be SCJP > SCWCD > SCBCD and then SCEA.

In short, can SCBCD be a deserving stepping stone to success in SCEA?

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Valentin Crettaz
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Well, it all depends on where you put your priorities. Some developers only want to concentrate on the business tier, some only on the presentation tier and still others want to do both. My personal opinion is that there should definitely be a pre-requisite for SCEA, and that should at least be SCJP and SCJD. Now, whether SCBCD or SCWCD or SCDJWS is required or not depends heavily on the career orientation of the developer. But, I would now see SCWCD and SCBCD as necessarly mandatory since there are lots of places where people call EJBs directly from Swing applications, for instance, and thus, shoudn't be required to acquire SCWCD knowledge at all.

Morever, according to the current state of the art, the SCEA exam is by far outdated and will undergo a drastic rework sometimes soon. So, I really wouldn't take the current SCEA as any kind of standard exam. Of course, my opinion is that the new exam should be included in a real certification path and not stand as a single child lost somewhere.
 
Branko Santo
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I would have to dissagree on Architects needing the Programmer or Developer certs as prerequsites.

The low level stuff that you need to know to pass SCJP is really something an architect will never need to use in his career. Developer knowledge is a little bit closer but just the design part, again you need to know much more programming knowledge than your avarage architect would need.

But the natural level of progression in a job is I guess: Junior -> Senior -> Architect -> Manager so in peoples minds it is natural for programmers to become architects.
 
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