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anand chawla
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Hi Guys,
Well I have this query,I see new exams on Java...ie..Sun certified web component developer,and so many people out here passing out exams,but tell me is is valuable.If that is the reason why does the Sun website deploy ASP on their own website.They are trying to popularise JSP and Servlets,inturn they are using ASP,also Javaranch.I am not trying to offend anyone or something like that,I am myself a Sun Certified Programmer,But when I see all this,I m very much surprised.Can anyone tell me wher exactly is servlets and JSP deployed,which major websites.
please try and clear my doubt,I just cant see Java go down this way,Inspite of being logically and Syntactically so correct
 
milind_Vaad
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Hi anand,
You have actually voiced my concern!
Its really agonising to find the creator and proponents of Java technology themselves, relying on the competitive one....
An irony of sorts..can somebody elaborate on this striking contradiction.
Milind
 
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What rubbish you chaps are spewing here. You dont seem to be very knowledgeable about the market place. I dont see any evidence of Sun using ASP. If you go to the Forums at javasoft, (which I doubt you chaps do go to given your naivety) you will note that the forums (this has to be the biggest development community forum on the web) is based on Jive which uses JSP's.
You've got to remember that the fact that you dont see a .jsp extension indicates the lack of Java web component technology. Most of the online banks (at least here in the UK) utilise servlets. JSP and servlets are enterprise class technologies so expect to see them in high end websites not the metoo.com that run ASP IIS and the like. I can go on and on but I guess you chaps have got the message ... so get off your lazy, apprehensive butts and go for the EXAM PRONTO !
Originally posted by anand chawla:
Hi Guys,
Well I have this query,I see new exams on Java...ie..Sun certified web component developer,and so many people out here passing out exams,but tell me is is valuable.If that is the reason why does the Sun website deploy ASP on their own website.They are trying to popularise JSP and Servlets,inturn they are using ASP,also Javaranch.I am not trying to offend anyone or something like that,I am myself a Sun Certified Programmer,But when I see all this,I m very much surprised.Can anyone tell me wher exactly is servlets and JSP deployed,which major websites.
please try and clear my doubt,I just cant see Java go down this way,Inspite of being logically and Syntactically so correct

 
Rajat Singla
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Hi,
I agree with franklin and am highly optimistic about scwcd certification.
Server side java has major strength and a long way to go. J2ee is the future.
certs like scjd scea might have lost the charm but scwcd will definitely be staying for a long time.
regs
rajat
 
Tim Duncan
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Originally posted by Rajat Singla:
certs like scjd scea might have lost the charm but scwcd will definitely be staying for a long time.

What makes you say that SCJD and SCEA have lost their charm? SCEA in particular is very sought after. Did you mean "not of interest" to developers or to employers?
 
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Please tell us where Sun is using ASP?
 
Rajat Singla
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Yeah Tim,
I meant that for developers and programmers scjd and scea are not that much worth as compared to scwcd.
regs
rajat
 
Terry Wang
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Hi, guys,
For Sun's "My Certification" site, (http://www.galton.com/~sun/), they do use ASP, but I guess GALTON is a 3rd party sponsor, not Sun itself.
The point is, if you choose Sun against MS, have faith in it.
 
Chintan Rajyaguru
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Hi All,
I think the technologies are getting matured. At this point however Java is market leader because of J2EE. This article may be interesting: http://www.zdnet.com/intweek/stories/news/0,4164,2804967,00.html
Like others I did not see Sun using ASP anywhere. Infact, M$ uses UNIX machines to run hotmail (I am not 100% sure about this). I work for a consulating company which is one of the big five in the world. Though we are affected by the economy, we have more Java projects than M$ projects.
Sorry if went off track. I believe the SCWCD certification does carry a lot of value. The reason is simple, Servlet and JSP technology is promising and hot and there are not many people out there. Serverside programming is relatively new and I think SCWCD is the first milestone to prove your competency in the serverside programming.
 
Neil Guinto
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It kinda bug me too to see their using ASP, eventhough they might be 3rd party, at least Sun could have put some pressure on them.
Originally posted by An Wang:
Hi, guys,
For Sun's "My Certification" site, (http://www.galton.com/~sun/), they do use ASP, but I guess GALTON is a 3rd party sponsor, not Sun itself.
The point is, if you choose Sun against MS, have faith in it.

 
jawa lal
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I really can not belive sun uses ASP, While all the people are going for JSP/SERVLET. if you need major websites www.ibm.com & www.sun.com & oracle.com they all use jsp/servlet.
also many commercial websites and gov. websites use it.
Most importantly JSP/servlet is widely accepted standard in industry.
 
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