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Dave Vick
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Hey there everyone
I passed the SCJP a few weeks backa nd am looking at the web developer test as my next objective. I've looked at a few books as possible starting points and have semi-sortof narrowed it down to two books, they are:
Java Servlet programming (2nd edition) O'Reilly
and Bill Brogans Developers guide to servlets and jsp.
Has anyone here used either of them? If so, which would you reccomend and how much of the exam objectives do they cover?
Any input will be appreciated,
Thanks

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Da Zhu
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Bill Brogans' book is not good enough alone. It does
not provide enough details on servlet and jsp.
The sample code takes too much space, while the explaination
is a little too short.
P.S. Bill is a nice person. He is willing to read your email.
 
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I am using the first edition of Java Servlet programming O'Reilly and the JavaServer Pages O'Reilly (Hans Bergsten).
I find them both excellent besides that they do not cover the newer specs. So I am also studying the Servlet 2.3 and JSP 1.2 specifications, as well as Ken's notes.
Francois
 
Shamaila Mahmood
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I found two books that are excellent
1) "Core Servlets and Java Server Pages"
2) "Inside servlets by callaway"
Java server Programming is good but I found above books more useful
 
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Dave, as i m very new to this topic i have started with Developing Java Servlets by SAMS, Techmedia....a small book but good start with. I also have Wxox's Professional Java Server Programming Vol 1&2 which i'll see later. But people here say O'Relly's book good....may be we should watch more...

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Dave Vick
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Originally posted by Ashik uzzaman:
may be we should watch more...

Too late, I ordered the O'Reilly book yesterday. I'll let all of you kow what I think of it. I'm just now getting into servlets and JSP so I figure 6 to 9 months of reading and coding to even think about the test (I just started school again for the fall so I have no time to study for it). As I learn more I'll be able to decide if the book will cover all of the objectives or if it covers them well enough - I'll let you all know what I think.
Ashik, let me know what you think of your books too please, in case I need to get another book to supplement the one I'm getting.
Thanks for all of your responses
I'll be posting questions as soon as I know what to ask

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Dave Vick
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That's where I get almost all of my books from.
 
Jimmy Blakely
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Shamaila wrote:
<i>I found two books that are excellent
1) "Core Servlets and Java Server Pages"
2) "Inside servlets by callaway"</i>
Omigod, just the other day I was at Barnes and Nobles trying to decide between those very two books. I eventually went with Inside Servlets since (according to Amazon) it is more geared towards beginners. I might buy the other one after I get done with Callaway's book.
Right now I'm on page 99 and liking what I've read so far.
Jimmy Blakely, SCJP
 
Rama Raghavan
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Originally posted by Francois Merle:

www.bookpool.com offers books up to 42% off.
Francois

I checked this site for some of the books I am looking for - nice discounts !!
Francois - They are new books I'd presume and not used ones - just curious ..

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Dave Vick
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Rama
Yes, they are new books. Shipping is very reasonable there too, and fast. I ordered my book yesterday at about 1:00pm and it shipped the same day!!
Dave
 
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Professional JSP by WROX is a great book.
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Rama Raghavan
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On reviewing "Core Servlets and JSP - Marty Hall I feel that each chapter looks more like a wordy glossary on respective topics.
Eyeballing the bolded portions of the code listing gives some ideas.
Just an opinion !!
May be good only from an exam point of view - any thoughts ?

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Shamaila Mahmood
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Jimmy Blakely,
Yah inside servlet is for beginers, I think you do not need to read all the chapters. I can give u the list of the chapters that are important (if u are not a beginer, beginers should read or go through all the chapters). Before starting my studies I read the specs and find the chapters that should be read from many books. After preparing list of chapters from books I started my study.
 
Jimmy Blakely
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Shamaila: that would be awesome.
Though I am technically a beginner, it would be nice to know which chapters to pay especially close attention to and which chapters won't kill me to skip.
I am a full time univ. student and work part time, so I am not entirely confident I will be able to read the entire 800 pages in the span I have allotted to myself.
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Ashik Uzzaman
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Hi Dave,
Sorry to be late! Though i m very new in this area(Servlets/JSP), my opinions given below r subject to be judged by the ranchers here...
I found Developing Java Servlets from SAMS a good starter for beginner but only to be complemented with <font size= "+2" color = "blue"> Jason Hunter's Java Servlet Programming Second Edition from O'Reilly</font>(i think this book has become a de facto standard in this respect). Bill Brogden's book is not the best...Then after a few months maturity i'll go for Wrox's 2 volumes. In the meantime i m having a look on JDBC section of Ivor Horton's Beginning Java 2. O'Reilly's book on UML and Design Pattern is one i m in fond of for some days (i've heard it as excellent!). But when studying, the Servlet & JSP specification must be considered as the most important resource. U'll also get some tutorials in various discussion forums and SCWCD@Whiz may be helpful.
And if u haven't already gone thru, plz click on.... <a href="www.jspin.com"> www.jspin.com </a>
Waiting with a can of beer, abt all of ur comments on which parts i m wrong here....
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Shamaila Mahmood
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here is the detail of chapters of Inside servlets
Chpater Name (No) | Objectives
Beyond Web Basics (3) (Section HTTP) | (1.2, 6.3)
Servlet Basics (5) (Servlet Life Cycle)| (1.5)
Servlet API... (6) | (1.1, 1.2 ,1.3, 1.5, 4.1)
Beyond Servlet...(10) (ServletConfig, ServletContext) | (1.3)
Thread Safe Servlets11 | (7)
Http Redirect(12) |
Session and State Management(14) | (5)
Server side Include... (15) (RequestDispatcher) | (1.6)
 
Dave Vick
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Ashik,
Thanks for your input. hopefully I'll get the O'Reilly book in the mail today and be able to get through it in the next few months. At that point I'll take a look at the objectives and see where I still need work and get my next book based on that and on everyones suggestions.
thanks everyone, and glad to see that a few other people got help in this thread too.

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Paul Michael
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Originally posted by Da Zhu:
Bill Brogans' book is not good enough alone. It does
not provide enough details on servlet and jsp.
The sample code takes too much space, while the explaination
is a little too short.
P.S. Bill is a nice person. He is willing to read your email.

Da Zhu's right... Bill's book does not cover that much exam objectives... it's still a good book though. i strongly recommend it to those who are new to servlets and jsp like me. exam wise, i've heard a lot of good things about the core servlets and jsp book. gotta go get myslef one. the only downside to that book is that it doesn't cover the latest jsp and servlet specifications...
 
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Originally posted by Paul Michael Laborte:
the only downside to that book is that it doesn't cover the latest jsp and servlet specifications...

True, but does any book yet? Everything you need is there in the APIs, but the books make it easier to understand. If you want to read up on the new features in the Servlet 2.3 API, I'd recommend these:
What's new in 2.3
Another article on new features
Tutorial on Filters
Article on Event Listeners

Hope that helps.

 
saumil shukla
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Hi,
any opinions about "Java Servlets" 2nd edition by Karl Moss --McGraw Hill publication?
Thanks.
Saumil
 
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