Re-certification Required For All Sun Certifications

[JiaPei Jen]

In a nutshell:
- Those certified after Sept 1st will have their certifications valid
for 2 yrs only.
- Recertification thru a single exam only ($100)
- Original certificate still 'valid' in the sense that is shows that
you were certified at some point in time!
Details are at the Sun certification FAQ:
http://suned.sun.com/US/certification/faq/.

[Roseanne Zhang]

Thanks for the new $un money hungary news.

[Rick Reumann]

I'm still a bit confused about this recertication test. Will it "just" cover what wasn't tested on the first exam or will it also through in a few of the other questions? I couldn't seem to find a document explicity stating what the objectives would be on the recertification test.
Man, what a pain I understand why they are doing it, but just a shame since I just took the test in February which really isn't that long ago. The one thing I don't like about the way Sun deals with this exam stuff is they don't seem to give dates in the future when things will change, or at least approximate dates. This I think is a little unethical because I'm sure they have some idea when a test will change to a major upgrade and they should let you know approximately when this will happen.

[Carlisia Campos]

Well, stores know when they're going to have sales, but they don't anounce it before hand otherwise most people would just queue up to buy during that period, at a lower price.
All biz want money now, not later.
My understanding after reading that page is that each exam is a whole exam. Only if you need to have taken a prerequisite exam before taking a particular exam, and you have taken it, and THAT exam has expired, then you'd take an exam with only the updated information.
But then, why not take the exam with just the updated information as well?
Maybe I didn't get it.
--Carlisia

[Terry Wang]

i only heard the crying for $ from sun.
$100 for a few minor changes? come on ...

[garth schneider]

JiaPei says - "Those certified after Sept 1st will have their certifications valid
for 2 yrs only".
I do not see anything on Sun site to support that. Please show me where this info is stored. The FAQ page on Sun site has following question and answer.
"Does this impact my programmer 1.2 exam?
No, previously certified programmers are still certified, however, we always recommend that professionals maintain currency in the technology. An upgrade exam (310-026) will be available in September 2002 for programmers to update from programmer 1.x to programmer 1.4. "
I do not see in there where it says certifications are invalidated at a later date. IBM pulls that stunt but I have not seen SUN doing that.
Garth Schneider
SCJP2, IBM Certified Solution Developer

[Barry Gaunt]

Go to the FAQ from the link in the original post and look at the section:

How long is my certification title "good"?

[garth schneider]

Thank You for the link. It appears that in 2 years I will need to get my certification upgraded. It would not pay to get recertified now so close to the time I got certified with version 1.2. They would both expire at the same time. Best to hold off. They are following a drivers license model.
Garth
SCJP2, IBM Solution Developer

[Nazmul Huda Sarkar]

SUN announced their upgrading exam for $100. But Microsoft offered upgradation of MCSE for free of cost for a certain time period. Why SUN is not doing the same? Are they too much hungry for $

[Sumit Amar]

They aint hungry, but kinda free, M$ has number of certification tracks with various exams in each of the title. But $un people were not that intelligent and offered the individual exams, hence the total certification takes were very less. 1.4 SDK test has less passing percentage, it is not because the passing rate was less in SCJP earlier, actually it is a simple marketing practice to attract more customers to take the SCJP.
I personally don't feel good at "renewing" the certification thing. A Test may "Retire" should not "expire".

[Gerrod Bland]

Correct me if I am wrong, but this means that people that were certified before the 1st Sept 2002 will have valid certifications for all eternity? If so, I'm not too happy about this as I sat my exam on 2nd Sept 2002.

Gerrod

[Asher Tarnopolski]

this is sooo stupid!
let the universities give out their diplomas
with a line "this B.Sc. is valid until 2005".
such a bullshit. sun becomes another m$...