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Eric Johnson
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maybe i'm too hot and tired from cutting the grass, but i can't find it.
 
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lol, yeah i'm bleary. just saw the other post on this, and now i see how.
 
Eric Johnson
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hmm, i liked the old search better. you could search individual forums for what you were looking for. imho this new way is not as efficient.
[ July 05, 2002: Message edited by: Eric Johnson ]
 
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Originally posted by Eric Johnson:
hmm, i liked the old search better. you could search individual forums for what you were looking for. imho this new way is not as efficient.
Hmmm.... so a search that causes the site to crash twice a day is more efficient than Google?
 
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Maybe not as precise but definitely faster and less strain on our server.
 
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Definitely preferred the more efficient site-busting method of search (the OLD method)
It accomplished the task at hand quite readily...
now search is as exhaustive as searching the entie internet.
 
arun mahajan
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I am totally agreed with Eric..THE OLD SEARCH WAAAAS MUCH BETTER. Advantes were:-
1. You can search against a particular forum.
2. You can search against a member's also.
3. Could also be date specific.

May be there were some search engine problems and it may crash the system but aaanyhow the old one waaas much much better. and strongly support for same.

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arun
 
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I agree that the old search was more precise and thorough, while the new one is much faster and, like Google in general, tends to give you the best responses first (while missing some of the later ones). It would be nice to have both, but at this point it's unlikely we'll be able to restore the old search until we switch over to Jive. It's not worth the trouble to debug the search problems in UBB; we're much more interested in getting Jive up and running, and the search is expected to offer everything you miss from the old UBB search. Those who are interested in seeing more search options should answer Thomas' call for Jive testers. This will help us move forward with Jive, which in turn will give you more search options.
 
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Originally posted by arun mahajan:
1. You can search against a particular forum.


You can add the name of the forum (in quote marks like "Programmer Certification Study") to help narrow it down to one forum.

2. You can search against a member's also.

You can still do this by member name (in quotes) or by member number (You may need to add a '+' sign in front of the member number)

3. Could also be date specific.

Google does not provide this option for the version we're using. Sorry.
 
Thomas Paul
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What do you think of the Lucene search engine?
 
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I've never used the Lucene search engine. Have you? What do you think of it?
 
Thomas Paul
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It seems to have most of the features that everyone is looking for. You an get an idea of the types of searches you can do here:
http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/queryparsersyntax.html
I don't think that everything is implemented in Jive, but it does seem like most of the features are available.
 
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don't get me wrong, i've gotten more outta these forums than any book or class i've taken as far as advancing my understanding of java. but i don't find the google search to be useful. i entered my member number as the search parameter, with and without the quotes and with and without the + prefix, and the engine only returned 6 hits. i'm not a monster poster, but i have more than 6 posts. i'm tryin to do my part testing the jive forum software, but i'm not having much luck with that search engine either. again, even without a search option these forums would remain an invaluable tool for the java neophyte, and for the guru as well i imagine. so please take this critisism in the constructive context that it is intended.
 
Thomas Paul
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Note: Jive only updates the index once every 15 minutes. I have found the Jive search to be excellent.
 
Eric Johnson
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Note: Jive only updates the index once every 15 minutes. I have found the Jive search to be excellent.

that would explain it. lol, i've got an mtv level of patience. i want it now! now! now! now!
 
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Ive searched the saloon with google and i only got messages till april or so. So i can't find a recent post...
It seems it do not update the index very often...
As Thomas Paul i have found the jive search engine to be really good, and much better than google.
 
Chad McGowan
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The new Google search really seems to be a step backwards for this site. In the past I have been able to find the information I need hundreds of times without having to post a question. Being able to go to a specific saloon and search for a specific topic really made this site stand out from all the other java help sites out there. Not that I am knocking JavaRanch now... I still think it is one of the best, but it will not be as useful to me as it once was...
 
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trust me -- we've all felt the strain of the new search facility (It's now impossible for us moderators to search in the Moderator's only forum, seeing as though that info isn't published to Google) -- but the old search was causing the server to crash too often -- hopefully the google search won't last too long -- 'cause hopefully we'll be able to go Live on Jive in the near future.
 
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