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SCWCD vs. IBM's 483

 
Thies Edeling
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Hello reader
I'm looking for an exam to certify myself in J2EE.
The obvious one is Sun's SCWCD but when I look at the objectives it seems to me it's more aimed towards JSP & servlets than J2EE.
Comparing it to the Enterprise Connectivity Test (IBM 483 http://www-1.ibm.com/certify/tests/obj483.shtml) the IBM exam has more J2EE aspects in it. However, I don't know anything about IBM's java certificates acceptance in the market, are they recognized? And are my assumptions about Sun's certificate right?
thanks in advance!
Thies
 
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I've not heard of the IBM exam before, so I can't really comment about that.
But check ou the SCEA (Sun Certified Enterprise Architect Exam) -- It's a pretty well respected exam -- you actually have to develop a project (similar to the Developers Exam) using EJBs.
 
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SCWCD deals with servelts and JSP , which are web compoenets of J2EE ,
where as IBM 483 deals with EJB part mainly and a part of servets/JSPs.
As Jessica suggested, u can go for SCEA exam also, which has everything in J2EE.
 
Thies Edeling
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Well the thing is that I have enough JSP & servlet work experience on my resume to survive an intake. The EJB's part is missing hence I'm looking for a certificate in that area.
But, I just saw that SCWCD is not required to go for SCEA (which I always thought) so doing SCEA is a pretty good option - especially when IBM's certs are not that widely known. thanks for the answers!
 
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Thies, the SCEA is an architect's certification. Which means it shows that you can use UML and work up an architecture. It doesn't show that you can use J2EE hands-on.
My recommendation is that you look into the BEA Certified Specialist: Server certification or one of the IBM Websphere certifications. I'd also do the SCWCD while I was at it. My strategy is to do the SCWCD first then follow with the BEA Server certification, as there is significant overlap between the two curriculums and the SCWCD has better preperation materials available....
http://certification.bea.com/certification/certification_by_product.jsp?r_cert=1
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Alfred,
I agree with you Bea Server CErt has lots of similarities with SCWCD. Seems like an intersting thing to pursue.
Naveen
 
Dannio Leonder
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Alfred, thanks for the info. I indeed decided to go for SCWCD first (changing my mind every minute . I saw the Architect exam is indeed more 'abstract'.
IMHO I see a lot more IBM Websphere openings than BEA, oh well, let's first pass SCWCD.
By the way, anyone ideas about the jCert certificates as in acceptance and value ? (or am I going way off topic now? )
 
Al Newman
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Breaking news, Sun is creating a new certification exam which will be the equivalent of the SCWCD but for Business component development (aka EJBs). Called the Sun Certified Business Component Developer for J2EE.
Look here, but act qick because the questionaire has to be in by Monday for the free voucher for the first test. This may be available by June.
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Al Newman
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IMHO I see a lot more IBM Websphere openings than BEA, oh well, let's first pass SCWCD.

I'm not sure, it might be so. Or it could just be the current trend. BEA claims it has the lead in the marketplace. So does IBM.
By the way, anyone ideas about the jCert certificates as in acceptance and value ? (or am I going way off topic now? )

I've been looking at the jCert myself, but there are at least two problems with jCert. First, it is not as well-known in the industry as the Sun Certifications are, which means that you will rarely see it as a requirement in a job req. Second, although it's theoretically an industry-wide standard for certification, in practice IBM is the only vendor which fully supports it through the third level, though BEA may support the 3rd level. So right now it's an IBM certification, kind of a combination of the SCEA and the new Sun J2EE certification.
On the plus side is that it has to be rare compared to the Sun certifications. This means that you may be able to present yourself as a rare commodity to the right customer. But you will have to do some selling.
 
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Hi Thies,
Surely, SCEA is the most respected among SCWCD or Test 483.
You'll also soon have an option for Sun's upcoming EJB exam.
Also, Test 483 will be soon taken over by Test 484 for J2EE 1.3.
I'll also suggest you looking at other exams like XML, UML, WebSphere/WebLogic.
You may find our article section useful in this regard. Watch out for more at http://www.whizlabs.com/certifications.html
Hope it helps.
Regards and best wishes,
Pradeep
 
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