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Dan T
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Hello,

I have been waiting for this book quite a long time, and therefore, I have decided to study for SCBCD before SCWCD. I have already passed the SCBCD, and the book is still in delay. I pre-ordered the book, and just got an email stating the HF book will arrive on Sept 15. However, for myself, school starts in early September, and therefore I cannot wait for the HF book to be delivered. Maybe there are others like me trying to sqeeze another certificaiton before school starts, so could anyone kindly recommend some resources that could cover the difference between the 1.3 to 1.4?

Resources I currently have:

Java 2 Web Developer Certification study Guide (sybex, for 1.3)
Manning SCWCD exam study kit (for 1.3)
Servlets and JavaServerpages (by Kevin Jones)
[Sams] Java for the Web with Servlets, JSP, and EJB (servlet 2.3, Jsp 1.2)
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Barbara Norway
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If you're in the U.S., the official word from O'Reilly is that the HF book will release aug 25:
Head First Servlets and JSP
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/headservletsjsp/
Due to release August 25

I received this in an email from O'Reilly today. That means they'll ship on that date I believe. I think if you get it from Amazon or anyone else it may be later. I don't know if there is a delay in other countries...
 
Eusebio Floriano
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Unfortunately, there are many months that amazon and o�relly are saing that the book will release and it never happens.
 
Nicholas Cheung
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You may consider reading MZ's notes.

Nick
 
Barbara Norway
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Hi,

Who's MZ and what are his notes ?

In answer to the post about O'Reilly & Amazon prior "promise" dates: O'Reilly, as far as I know, has never committed to a defeinite date. They said July or August (est.) but this email I received specifies the release dates for all their publications (in the next week). I've known these to be quite accurate. The email is a weekly update of news, book chapters (PDFs), upcoming releases, and specific release dates for books to be published in the next week. So I'm pretty sure it will be the 8/25. Granted, not 100% positive, but close.
 
Nicholas Cheung
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Simply click the link in my previous post.

Nick
 
Dan T
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Maybe because I don't live in the US, so it won't be available on 8/25. I live in Canada (close enough to the US), and amazon gave me an email they will only be available on 9/15.
 
Barbara Norway
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Not to beat a dead horse...er, moose, but, if you ordered it from O'Reilly directly http://oreilly.com, you could get it as soon as they release it. Of course, no discount :-( They ship to Canada and even display prices in Canadian $$ as well as US.
 
Dan T
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Ty for your replies.

One more question, I heard that 1.4 is a lot harder and has more material than the previous 1.3 version. Was there any big topics on the 1.3 that won't be on the 1.4 (ie. like how the whole awt and swing was on the java programmer 1.2, but wasnt on 1.4)?
 
Kathy Sierra
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Howdy all!
Well, it's terrible how late we were and how long y'all have had to wait. I know Bert mentioned this, but I'll reiterate: the book ended up 200 pages larger than we had planned... we just didn't want to skimp on any of the things covered in the exam, and even though we were the *developers* of the exam, we still did a bad job of predicting what it would take to do what we felt was a thorough enough treatment for all the topics. If the book had JUST been a Servlets/JSP book (instead of a certification book), it would have been a lot smaller

The 1.4 exam is completely different from the 1.3 exam, even though a lot of the objectives are similar. With the current SCJP, for example, we *updated* the exam by adding and changing questions, but we left a lot of questions and objectives the same. With this SCWCD, we rewrote 100% of the exam, so there are no questions from the previous exam made it into the new one.

There aren't any huge areas that are no longer on the exam, although you will have fewer questions on what is now the Classic Tag model than appeared on the 1.3 exam, because we've now added questions on the new tag models for Tag Files and Simple Tags.

The exam is definitely more difficult than the previous exam--on purpose. The 1.3 SCWCD was the only exam that had been criticized for being too easy and too knowledge-based (as opposed to *performance-based*). So, the goal was to make the questions more challenging in the *right* ways--by making them more closely related to real-world issues, as opposed to simply memorizing the API. That's not to say there isn't a fair amount you have to memorize, though.

OK, so the dates. Every time prior to today that we (and O'Reilly and Amazon) have given estimates, we were *guessing* based on when we though the book would be done. All of the guessing is now OVER, because the book has now been *printed*. That means the book is already in the warehouse and beginning to move through the system. Until 10 days ago, there was still no way to say with *certainty* that the actual books are done. But now they are!

The only question now is *exactly* when the books will be sent, but with our previous three books, by the time it got to this stage it never took more than one week for the book to ship on Amazon US. I can't speak for international shipments, though. We have been told that Amazon will have the book at the same time O'Reilly has it, so there is probably no advantage to pre-ordering from O'Reilly.

Keep in mind that once Amazon starts officially *shipping* it, you will almost certainly see the following:

1) It will suddenly say "Ships in 24 hours", and that tells you they finally are filling back-orders.
2) They will immediately (within a day or two) sell out of their initial order, and you will see "Ships in 3-5 days" or even worse, "Ships in 2-3 weeks" on Amazon. DON'T BELIEVE IT! The way Amazon works it with O'Reilly, they will refill their warehouse within 1-2 days and suddenly it will go back to "Ships in 24 hours" again. So ANYTIME you see "ships in 2-3 weeks", do not believe it. Wait a day and it will go back to 24 hours. This is just how their system works. There is a *tiny* chance that they will sell-out completely, but O'Reilly has ordered an extra big printing to make sure this doesn't happen. Because it usually takes 2 weeks to print, bind, and ship the books again (and this is the stage that has just been completed).

Isn't this more than you ever wanted to know about book distribution?

Oh yes, as far as US physical bookstores, you should see them on shelves within the next 7-10 days, depending on the store. There is a promotion for the book at Borders (or Barnes and Noble, I forget) for September, so believe me--there is NO chance that the book won't be in stores in September.

So, once again my apologies--but for the same money you'll get an extra 200 pages... although after this printing they may raise the price to accommodate the extra size. That won't happen for at least several months, though.

In the meantime, I will try to spend some time here and help answer questions. I can't tell you again how sorry we are and how appreciative we are of your patience. It's not O'Reilly's fault (or Amazon's) fault--this was Bert's fault No, it was both our faults. We did a poor job of estimating the amount of effort and time. Believe me, this is our sole form of income, so if we thought we could have rushed it out earlier and still delivered a book that would really help you prepare well, we would have!

cheers,
Kathy
 
Amee Dabo
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Thanks Mr.Nicholas,
Link to MZ's Notes was really good & informative.
-Regards,
Amita
 
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