HF Servlets & JSP available in local store (Michigan)

[Barbara Norway]

The wait is over for some of us. The book is available in a local store as of today.

[Ram Mmurthy]

barnesandnoble.com shows "Available" status for this book.

[Barbara Norway]

I actually have it now. I had to drive totally across town through gridlock traffic jams, etc. to get to the west side but I have it. The borders near me might get it in a week or two but who wanted to wait? Same for mail order. Off to start reading now ;-)

[Ray Yu]

Hi Barbara:

Are you live in US,
Configuration, you can see the HFS book now!

But I live in Asia Pacific country, So I need wait for min one month until the book arrive to my local book store!

Before I order the Sierra, Bates SCJP book, the bookstore totally need wait me about 3 month! Then the book arrive! At the waiting period, they still told me to give up to order this book! They say the book is printed out ...etc!

So I think preorder in internet book store is better than buy the book in my side local bookstore!

[Kathy Sierra]

Oh man, BARBARA! You get to see it before *we* do?? What's up with that!

You have made us SO happy to hear that it's out there! We are going to call all our local bookstores right now... this is extremely good news. At least now that proves it is *real*

Thanks so much for posting this Barbara. We're going to have to celebrate tonight.

And one more time, I have to thank everyone for being so patient. We are so sorry about the delays.

The good news is, once it starts shipping, it really is just very short time before it ends up everywhere. We'll try to get news about the Indian edition, but I know that takes more time...

cheers,
Kathy

[Ray Yu]

Hi Kathy:

Do you know how long HFS will shipping to Hong Kong book store?
I pre-order (pre pay HK$160 <US$20> to the book store.
And I also tell them to use fast post to get the book (Need extra pay US$25).
But they only tell me all action need Oreally start to sell the book!
If Oreally don't offer fast post, we need wait about 1 month to buy the book!
I think all computer book store can close as soon as possible!
Their selling schedule is so slow as compare to oversea online bookstore!

[Mohamad Elkadi]

Hi every one,
Amazon, UK, has changed availability date from 30 August to 30 september.
There is an additional delay for 1 month.Hence, how it is possible that
the book is available in US book stores???
[ August 28, 2004: Message edited by: Mohamad Elkadi ]

[Barbara Norway]

Hi,

If I hadn't been able to drive across town and get it (instant gratification), I could had ordered it from o'reilly (oreilly.com) and had them ship it fedex next day. That would be very $$$$. I believe I would have chosen o'reilly and had them ship it 2nd day or some option that wouldn't cost more than, say, $8.00 U.S.for shipping. Good luck in acquiring your copy

I am starting chapter five today. I may like this book even *more* than HF Java, probably because I'm actually working with JSP now. I'm an Oracle DBA/Unix Sys Admin trying to debug past programmers' arcane, non MVC, albeit sophisticated and ambitious , code that has never functioned.

Thanks Kathy and Bert, and now Bryan, too.....

P.S. Love the "kung-fu" and other Asian characters/graphic scenarios. Liked all the animals in HF Java though. Missed them in HF EJB (I confess I haven't read that one thoroughly yet).

[Kathy Sierra]

Originally posted by Mohamad Elkadi:
Hi every one,
Amazon, UK, has changed availability date from 30 August to 30 september.
There is an additional delay for 1 month.Hence, how it is possible that
the book is available in US book stores???
[ August 28, 2004: Message edited by: Mohamad Elkadi ]

I am almost certain that this will change again. It should not take Amazon UK another month! You cannot trust their stated dates, and now that the book is starting to ship in the US, you should suddenly see it become available even *if* the date still says "30 September"

On Monday we are going to try to find out what the estimates are for non-US Amazons...

cheers,
Kathy

[Sharada Raju]

Hi Norway,

I don't know why I they don't have this book in Minnesota. I have a doubt regarding the book. when I see in orielly site, the book is $45 and the number of pages are 886. But when I see in amazon the book has only 656 pages. Do u see any difference in those 200 pages. Just curious to know about it. Hope fully I will get this book by in a day or two.

Thanks for the information.
Sharada

[raphael Bereh]

Ordered from Amazon UK since early June. Still waiting ..

[Kathy Sierra]

Originally posted by Sharada Raju:
I have a doubt regarding the book. when I see in orielly site, the book is $45 and the number of pages are 886. But when I see in amazon the book has only 656 pages. Do u see any difference in those 200 pages. Just curious to know about it. Hope fully I will get this book by in a day or two.

O'Reilly has the correct information--the book is 200 pages longer than our original estimate, but Amazon still has the original (old) information. Eventually they will update that There is only *one* version of the book--the one on O'Reilly and Amazon are both the same book.

We called our local bookstores here in Colorado, and they all said they would have the book in their stores on Tuesday, and that is in their warehouse... so that's *some* good news I hope.

cheers,
Kathy

[Barbara Norway]

I realized that I would be quite lucky to get a hold of a copy when I saw that two of the suburban Borders bookstores had at least one copy and the others (about 8) didn't. Especially when the Birmingham store sold it out and couldn't hold one for me. But the Novi store sent me an email saying they had it waiting for me. Friday at 6:00pm I drove a fairly far distance in the worst traffic with concerns that it was possible that they might be holding one of the earlier HF books but it was there for me. I haven't been outside my front door since I got it. I needed this book to help me with a project I have at work that I wasn't really the right fit for and it's making many things so clear!

I still like the original HF Java book the best but this one is the most needed by me. There must be others who have this book now besides me and the one who got the Birmingham, MI copy ;-) I hope everyone who wants a copy gets one very, very soon. It's amazing that you, Kathy, don't have a copy yet. That's something I never would have thought.

In addition to the high quality of the content, the proofreading/editing is excellent too. I am still on Chapter five but saw but one "and" where I *think* maybe an "an" should be. I think I'm going to read straight through with just some coding so I can fill in the holes from my "on-the-job" training and then go back and thoroughly do ALL the exercises. I know that's not the correct method but I want to hurry so I can get a good overview for my project, then later prepare for certification, hopefully.

Cheers....

[Sri Ram]

Looks like Amazon still has some old info about this book. I am waiting for this since july 16th..yesterday after seeing Barbara's mail, tried to get an answer from Amazon and just got their reply and I am really disappointed by their mail..

It goes like this ..

Thanks for writing to us at Amazon.com.

I apologize for any misunderstanding about the delivery estimate for
your order.

Our latest information indicates that "Head First Servlets & JSP" has
not yet been released and the expected release date is not known. As
soon as a release date has been determined for this item, we will add
that information to our web site.


I remember Bert saying Amazon will be first one to receive this book .. hhhmmmm I hope they might update me with a +ve info sometime MOnday or Tuesday.. waiting to hear from them

[Krishnappan Muthuraman]

Amazon.com, walmart.com, bookpool.com still says that the book has not been released. But only bn.com says that the book is available and will ship within a day.

In Charlotte(North Carolina) local stores(Borders and Barners and Noble stores)the book is expected just before labour day week end. But it is 15$ more when you buy it from local stores compared to online book stores.

Anybody ordered thru bn.com they shud be having it. Has anybody has it?? Then we can cancel our order in amazon.com and re-order it from bn.com. Any updates regarding bn.com??? Has any one purchased the book online thru bn.com??

[Ramnathan Ravindran]

Kathy good that the book is out. Can you let me know when the Indian edition would be available?

[Johannes de Jong]

"In addition to the high quality of the content, the proofreading/editing is excellent too"

Though "One swallow does not make a summer" , this still is fantastic news for the reviewers. Thanks
[ August 29, 2004: Message edited by: Johannes de Jong ]

[E Weibust]

I give up on amazon.com.

I'm going to my local B&N and buying it there. It is crap that "brick and mortar" stores have it on their shelves before stinkin' amazon.

Erik

[Anitha Aravind]

Hello Kathy and Bert

Any update on the book's availability in amazon.com. It still says book not yet released( as of 30 Aug 2004 11.00am EST)

Thank you and I appreciate your reply in this regard.
Anitha

[Kathy Sierra]

We are REALLY surprised that Amazon has not turned on the switch to show "ships in 24 hours"! We expected that to happen last week. There is no reason for the delay... obviously the books are now out in the destribution. We've never before seen B&N (or any bricks and mortar) stores deliver a book *before* Amazon, so I think Amazon is just being extra-slow this time about getting the book into their system. If they don't start shipping it within the next two days, I'm sure O'Reilly will get involved and "kick" them into gear

In the meantime, I'm still hoping my local stores will have it tomorrow (that's what they said on the phone, anyway).

The books are out there now, so it should be ANY moment that *all* stores start delivering it.

But I'm grateful to Barbara for letting us know it exists! I was starting to think that maybe I just *dreamed* that we finished it, and I might wake up and discover that we're still writing chapter 2...

cheers,
Kathy

[E Weibust]

Jeez, Kathy! You've got me anticipating this book as if it was the next Star Wars movie (note: I really like star wars)..... That is something special. Making someone that anxious for a Java book.

Thanks...

Erik

[Kathy Sierra]

Originally posted by E Weibust:
Jeez, Kathy! You've got me anticipating this book as if it was the next Star Wars movie (note: I really like star wars)..... That is something special. Making someone that anxious for a Java book.

It's a whole new marketing strategy we've employed... it's called "don't meet your deadlines". That way, when the book is overdue, suddenly it becomes more important.

I think it's time to lower expectations just a bit... after all, this IS just a book about Servlets and JSP... and there's only so much we could do with, say, scriptlet syntax to make it interesting. There are lovely photographs of the review team, though. And I think it has a cute cover, personally. All very important when evaluating a Java book, as you know.

Cheers,
Kathy

[Michael Sullivan]

Well, I'm out in Colorado, and none of the local stores (B&N, Borders, Tattered Cover) are admitting to having it (or taking bribes) . looks like I'll give Amazon a couple more days, but if I see it out in public, I'm cancelling my Amazon order and buying it. And to think that I just told a co-worker that my 'geek-level' is pretty low!

[Michael Sullivan]

A quick scan of the other forums didn't reveal a good place to put this post, so I'll fit it into here.

Kathy, Bert: Over the years I've taken different forms of professional training... college courses, private firms, Microsoft/Sun/IBM. I've just completed a decent instructor led course, and I'd have to admit... I'd kill (well, maybe just maime and disfigure) to be a part of an instructor led Head First training session. I'm not sure if the whole head first approach is only suited for books, but its working better than the live performances that I get. Plus instructor led training is upwards of $2500... we should be getting Head First quality for that price.

So tell me some good news, Head First instructor led training coming to a location near me? (not so hard, I'm in Denver )

Thanks,

[Sri Ram]

Just got an update from Amazon (US)

It goes like this..

Thank you for writing to us at Amazon.com.

I apologize for any misunderstanding about the delivery estimate for
your order. We rely on the publisher for release date information.

Our most recent information was that "Head First Servlets & JSP" is
not yet released.

Once this item has been released and we receive copies, we will be
able to ship it to you. It is not uncommon for there to be a delay
of several weeks between the release and distribution of a new
publication.

Also, I will be sure to pass your message on to the appropriate
department in our company for consideration. Customer feedback like
yours is very important in helping us continue to improve the
selection and service we provide.

Looking forward to hear from them .. will wait for one more day..if any one get any update from Amazon ..kindly let me know.

[Kathy Sierra]

Originally posted by Michael Sullivan:
So tell me some good news, Head First instructor led training coming to a location near me? (not so hard, I'm in Denver )

Hmmm... no official plans at this point for an actual course. But you gave me an idea about something we've been thinking about... putting *some* live stuff into a video. For example, we did a one-hour "EJB Interpretive Dance Troupe" where we had audience members come down and *become* different roles in EJB (one guy was the home, someone was the home stub, etc.) and we thought of doing some live-action things and workshops that we could film. So good news and bad news maybe;

* Good news is: yes, we might do *something* live (although not a full-on formal instructor-led training thing, but it would be at least SOME of what we'd do in a classroom)

* Better news: it would be free. We'd need participants. Kind of like an unpaid *extra* in a movie

* Bad news: we haven't scheduled this yet although you just motivated me, and if it does happen, it would be within the next 8 weeks probably. And again, it wouldn't technically be a real ILT course, although it would have many similar elements.

* Good news for you-- it would be in your home territory : )

We'll let everyone on JR know when/if we do this, though -- so if you happen to have an excuse to come out to Colorado, you could come join us for a free *whatever it is*.

Thanks Michael!

cheers,
Kathys

[Anthony Watson]

I just checked the Barnes and Noble website and the book is now temporarily out of stock. It now says it will be available in one to two weeks.

Grrr. I was going to cancel my Amazon order and go through B & N but it looks like I can't even do that. It's too bad Amazon dropped the ball on this one.

[Kathy Sierra]

We don't know WHAT is wrong with Amazon on this one! They placed a substantial order with O'Reilly for it, enough to fill their backorders. O'Reilly is trying to figure out what's going on.

I think B&N ran out because people were cancelling their Amazon orders and switching to B&N. I think B&N will probably restock within 24 hours, they always automatically say 1-2 weeks when they have to order more, but we know for certain that their distributor has plenty of books already, so... I'd say either Amazon or B&N will say "ships in 24 hours" within the next day. Just ignore the "1-2 weeks" whenever you see it. That is just the default when they run out, but that will change.

We'll keep you posted...