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marco borsato
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I bought the SCWCD exam study kit of Hanuman Desukh and I am going for the 1.4 exam. Which chapters can be skipped and which are important?

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Alberto Justo
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Hola amigo, i studied by this book and i think that all chapters are necessary. Because the book is based on the specifications of Servlet 2.3 and JSP 1.2 i recommend you to download and print the last specifications of Servlet 2.4 and Jsp2.0

I tell you how i studied, i read each chapter of Hanumant and complemented them with all interesting information related to that chapter that i could get from the specification.Additionally, i designed a type of study guide , like a blog of SCWCD about all conclusions that i obtained by chapter, which I'm going to have available in some days, but the only problem is that it is in Spanish. Who wants to learn Spanish and SCWCD, could contribute in the translation.

A point important to remark on this book, like it is based on the previous specifications, does not include the following subjects: Expresion Language, JavaServer Pages Standard Tag Library, Simple Tag Event Model and Tag Files. I took the exam yesterday and i tell you that about 20 questions they were on the previous subjects, the other 49 questions with the book of Hanumant and the specification is enough. (By the way, i got 86% )

In order to summarize, these were the resources that i used:

1. Book of Hanumant Deshmukh ( I got it digitally in the dark side of Intenet, i dont want to promote the piracy, but in Venezuela it is too difficult buy this kind of books)

2. Servlet Specification 2.4

3. JSP Specification 2.0

4. A study guide for backup by Mikalai Zaikin
Study guide by Mikalay

5. This address, in where it talks on EL, Simple Tag and Tag FIles
The J2EE Tutorial

6. Our friend Kathy Sierra, share one chapter (Simple Tags and Tags Files) of which surely it will be the best book for this certification
Chapter 10 HF Servlets

7. JSTL 1.1 - Only the portion of the JSTL Core
JSTL 1.1

8- E-book by Jaison Falkner (although he says some crazy concepts in his book, help me to understand some points)
Ebook by Jaison Falkner


9 - Mock Exam Free. I recommend you the next ones

By JavaRanch

By JDiscuss By the way incredibly some questions appeared in the real examination, still I don't believe it)

By Eduardo Cobian

By Anand Chawlas

All got it by the almighty internet.

I hope that it serves you, greeting from Caracas...


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Alberto Justo (SCJP 1.4 | SCWCD 1.4 | SCDJWS in Progress...)
 
marco borsato
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Hola Alberto,

thank you for your elaborate answer. I don't know enough Spanish to order a cup of coffee so I will stick to English. Congratulations with your high score in the exam. I guess you are expert on taking this exam. I am glad that I can use the Hanuman book. Can you tell me the ratio of importance of this book to other material that you used (for instance 80%)? From your story it is not clear to me whether the mock exams in this book are worth doing? I found the SCJP exam pretty easy. I had about 30 mins. spare and found most of the questions easy. I scored 88%, which could have been more if I was familiar with the exam taking experience. Would you say that the SCWCD is more diffucult or easy as the SCJP? How about the time pressure? I found that most of the questions on the SCJP exam were about facts and less about analysing code. Is this also the case with the SCWCD exam?

Thank you for answering my previous questions and I hope you answer this new ones
 
Terry Martinson
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Marco -
Have you considered using the new Head First Servlets and JSP book to help you study for the 1.4 exam? That book is structured specifically for the newer 1.4 exam, while the study kit book you mentioned is specifically for the 1.3 exam.

I used the study kit book only to pass the 1.3 exam with 89%. I felt the old 1.3 exam was extremely easy compared to SCJP. However, I've heard that the new 1.4 exam is much more difficult.

Alberto sure had some good feedback above based on his experience with the 1.4 exam. I just mention this other newer book in case it is an option for you. With my personal style of learning I really like to be able to focus on just one book that has everything for me.

Also, so far the newer book is hard to get, but hopefully will soon be available via Amazon.

Good luck with your studying!

TJ
 
marco borsato
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Hi Terry,

I have considered the HFS book but it is more of a backup plan due to its availability in Holland. I have ordered this book at a shop in Belgium and I am hoping that they deliver within a month. My own style is also to use one book that is the way I learned for the SCJP. I used the Mughal et al book and did the mock exams of Dan Chisholm online. In this case I have to deviate from my preferences and do what Alberto recommends.

Thank you for your suggestion.
 
Alberto Justo
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Hola amigo,

I agree with everything what Terry said, if you want pass with honor the SCWCD 1.4, the best existing book is the one of Kathy and Bert. Nevertheless in my case, as surely it will be yours, i could not wait for the book HF Servlet, becouse in my job they demanded to me to obtain the certification SCWCD 1.4 this week. Reason why, i was studying based in the Hanumant book.

I think that if you will study by the Hanumant book, you have to make an additional effort to prepare for the SCWCD 1.4, but as it says the proverb "If the mountain does not come to mahoma, then mahoma shall go to the mountain". But sincerely I think that the Hanumant book it help you in 70~80 % for the exam. And in this percent i assure to you that you will have to make exercises on a compliant J2ee conteiner like Tomcat 5.0 and will have to check in the specification if everything what Hanumant says is correct. For instance:

Filters it is a subject that SCWCD 1.4 check, but Hanumant dont talk about this, only because Hanumant think that it is important in the last chapter talk about this.


Another example, Hanumant dont mention anything about the attribute isELIgnore for the page directive of a JSP, because in the SCWCD 1.3 dont cover the Expresion Language

Another example, Hanumant explain that the container make a implicit mapping whit all servlet through the servlet path "/servlet" in a web application. In Servlet2.4 always have to make a explicit mapping.

And like that, exists another more few concepts. This weekend im try to make a document in order to summarize concepts that i found in Hanumant book that no longer they apply for the SCWCD 1.4.

In reference to the difficulty of the exams, I consider the SCJP the most difficult examn of all, due to the many tricks that can be obtained with the syntax and semantics of the language. The other certifications like SCWCD i think it is more memorization of an API and you have to probe that you know the rules associated whit these API's. Reason why, i think it is more easy, and it's better for people than they have good memory (not my case ). It is said that SCWCD 1.4 is more difficult than SCWCD 1.3, I believe that it is because they added these new concepts like Expresion Languages, Tag Files or JSTL, but the part of Servlet, WebApplication, Sessions, Security, JSP Pages, is almost the same. Reason why, most of questions that you obtain in Mocks Exams 1.3 it work for practice.

Greetings from Caracas...
 
marco borsato
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Hola Alberto,

your explanation has made it clear for me now. I have made a plan based on your suggestions.

- first study the Hanumant book till the end of this month
- if the HSF book arrives then ofcourse I will study it, but probably I will get an e-mail that says that they can't deliver the book, then I will do mock exams to discover what I don't know and use the material you have listed.

Thank you very much.
 
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