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Hi everybody, that�s my percentage of failures.

So my real score is 92%.

If you read a post that I sent yesterday, you�ll check what was my score in the HFS final mock exam: 71%

So magic equation holds again: HFS mock exam + 20% = real score

The exam is not difficult if you know the subject. Some questions are tough, but others are pretty easy. In general, I found easier the questions about Servlets than those about JSPs.

Not too much to add to the advice given in previous posts by people who passed the exam. Only say that they are true, and my piece of advice is to take their advice.

Time given is enough. I got a little nervous because the questions in the beginning took me much more time than I expected. But then, easier questions appeared and finally there was plenty of time.

I�ve had fun in this forum and, besides, I�ve learnt a lot of things. Thanks to everybody.

Now, it is time to fly from here. I�ll miss all of you.

Jose
 
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Congratz Dude!!!
Gr8 Score and a Gr8 job done!!!
 
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Well done!!

What's next?

Nick
 
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congratulations!
 
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Hi Jose,

Hearty Congratulations....
We have had several good posts from you in the forum.
You have also been of great help to us.
If you find time..please do look into our questions ..
Good luck...

Javainn
[ April 15, 2005: Message edited by: S javainn ]
 
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Thank you everybody!!!

What's next? Well, I'm into SCBCD so those who are interested in the subject will can see me in that forum very soon.

I hope that forum to be as helpful as this one.
 
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Thanks for your contributions to this forum! I had a feeling, based on the other postings of yours I read, that you had a thorough understanding of the material here, so it is no surprise to me that you did so well on the exam. Good job!
 
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Now that I have a little time I�ll tell you my preparation strategy:

1) I read every chapter of HFSJ and made the exercises. I didn�t try to memorize everything at this stage; I concentrated on getting the concepts. While doing the exercises I would consult the book if necessary. Besides I coded as much as possible.

I think that HFSJ is a good book, well, a GREAT book, to get the concepts but it is not so good to arrange your mind and to have a global vision of the material. BTW, I already have in my hands HF EJB, so you can imagine that I'm really happy with HFSJ.

2) I decided to elaborate my own study notes. I used the Study Guide by Mikalai Zaikin (thanks), HFSJ and some other books, and mainly, Servlet 2.4 and JSP 2.0 Spec.

The study notes are organized according to the objectives of the exam. They have 75 pages including examples of everything that appears on the objectives. I also made two pages with UML diagrams of all the Servlet API (methods included). That helped.

One advantage of the study notes is that it was easier for me to go over them again and again than to go over an 800 pages book. Besides, the organization of the notes according to the objectives helped to arrange my mind.

It was a hard work but, after making the exam, I can say that the 75 pages of study notes contains every you need to get a 100% on the exam.

3) After studying the notes I practiced with the JWebPlus exam simulator (questions are quite similar to those in the real exam). I recommend it. I did every question, chapter by chapter.

4) Two days before the exam I did the HFSJ final mock exam. Really tough; I only scored 71%. I concentrated on understanding my mistakes.

5) The day before the exam I went over my study notes for the last time.

The total time of preparation was around three months. I admire those people who are able to prepare the exam in two weeks but I doubt that the foundations acquired in two weeks can be good.

That�s all ranchers,
Jose
[ April 15, 2005: Message edited by: Jose Esteban ]
 
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hello jose,

congrats again!

i also am using enthuware for testing.

what is the difference between your enthuware average scores, and this real exam score you had?

just wondering if we also see a pattern in real vs enthuware....as has been seen in hfs vs real.

jesus
 
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Originally posted by Jesus Angeles:
what is the difference between your enthuware average scores, and this real exam score you had?


Take into account that I didn�t do the Enthuware questions as complete mock exams, but as custom tests chapter by chapter. After every test I went over my mistakes.

Besides, my preparation wasn�t as good while I was doing these mock exams as when I did the HFS exam two day before the real one.

In general, scores were between 80% and 90%. So I can propose the equation:
Enthuware score + (5% to 10%) = real score

Of course, this is only a conjecture as it is based only on my experience and with the limitations related at the beginning of this post. If I had done an Enthuware exam the day before the real one it is probably that both exams would have had similar scores. I don�t know it for sure.
 
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Congratulations Jose
and thanks for all your hard work answering questions on this forum.
 
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Hi Jose,

We miss u in this forum.
As our friends in the forum said..we appreciate your patience in answering our questions ...
We also appreciate the way u were preparing for the exam ..as we could find that knowledge depth in your answers.
All the best for SCBCD..I am sure you would get a great score there too..

Javainn
 
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Congratulations on you GREAT score !
 
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Thanks to all of you for your congrats!!!
 
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re: hfs+20%

jose, thanks for the reply

ill also post here what happens on my exam....i get 67% on hfs and 76% on enthuware......

lets see how it goes
 
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I'm sure that you'll get a great score.

Good luck!!
 
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+20 proved true on mine!

i got 88% on real exam.

so hfs+20 is very close

and enthuware+10 also is.
 
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