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upul indrajith
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Is it worthwhile doing SCWCD? According to my knowledge servlets and jsp are not commonly used in these days. There are better other technologies like Struts,JSF,AJAX..etc . And on the other hand SCWCD is a bit old exam and they haven�t introduced new exams after 1.4.
 
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It is true that the current scwcd is quite old. You may however still benefit from it. You may instead wait for the next scwcd, which may include jsf.

With regards to what you mentioned:
Struts<--is built on top of servlet/jsp
JSF<--in jee applications you will use servlet/jsp with jsf
AJAX<--in jee applications you will use servlet/jsp with ajax

So there you go. The 3 you mentioned may anyway need your knowledge on jsp/servlet afterall.
 
hatim osman
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hi
It is very shocking to me! I never expected that servlets and jsp are moving out of the market.
 
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"According to my knowledge servlets and jsp are not commonly used in these days"

Your knowledge is deeply flawed. JSP and servlets are the basis of all the main Java web presentation layers.
 
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There are better other technologies like Struts

Have you ever heard of Struts Action Servlet ?
 
Chatura Dilan
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Yes, before you learn about frameworks, you have to know basics

SCWCD Mock Exams
 
Michael Ku
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What? JSPs and Servlets are on the way out? The sky is falling....

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Chicken Little

PS - AJAX will still call your Servlet container with a request
 
upul indrajith
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Ok. Now I know its stupid. But don�t you think the exam is too old. Will they introduce any new exam? why they didn�t introduce any new exam after 1.4 ? is it worthwhile to select some other java exam like Web Service exam or J2ME exam instead of SCWCD ? Look, for SCJP they are always introducing new exam versions. But for SCWCD or SCBCD they haven�t. Can anyone tell me a reason for it? Anyway now I have start doing it. Thanks for your comments.
 
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But for SCWCD or SCBCD they haven�t. Can anyone tell me a reason for it?

First of all, SCBCD has recently being updated to SCBCD 5.0, so I don't understand why you say that it has not been updated.
Concerning SCWCD, new specifications for servlets and jsp have been released, but they do not offer anything worth updating the exam. If you're interested in web application development, then I recommend you to study for this certification.
 
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The latest version of the Servlet/JSP spec has changed very little since the 1.4 version and so they have decided not to create a new version of the exam. Creating a new version of the exam is a time consuming and expensive business.

Note that there is no SCJP version for JDK 1.5 (Java 6) for similar reasons, the changes to the core language are minor.

You could of course make "marketing justifications" for new versions of these exams, but on balance I think they have made the right choice.

Thanks for asking this question as it is something that other people were probably wondering about and its worthwhile to discuss.

One of the reasons to do the SCWCD exam is that almost any server side Java development will use the technology whereas the other exams cover material that might not be used. Thus just about every EJB related project will involve Servlets/JSP whereas not every Servlets/JSP project will involve EJB. (Similarly for Web Services)

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I think beside jsp/servlet it has many useful topics like patterns, filter, listeners, security, deployment of webapp. These all are very useful in every web applications.
 
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irshad,
You may not be aware that there is a Naming Policy at the ranch. Could you please read it, and set your name accordingly ? (You need to set both first and last names). Thank you
 
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Hi Upul,

If you don't know JSP and servlets, you are dead.
They are backbone of all the frameworks, you are talking about.

In struts, except the ActionServlet which is the inbuild cotroller provided by the framework and going to act as Front Controller, all the other servlets (mostly by extending Action), you have to write by yourself.

In addition to Front Controller design pattern. Struts also incoporates model 2 MVC. And I think, you better know what's a Controller in model 2 MVC architecture. It's servlet not even JSP

So if You gotta survive, you have to get your knowledge regarding them right.

Regards,
Khushhal
 
upul indrajith
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Cool. I appreciate all of your comments� Now I know how worth it is �. Now I m doing it� So now I don�t have any doubts about the exam.. But I will ask more stupid questions regarding the technology in near future � Hope you guys will help me
 
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Welcome to SCWCD You're about to learn a lot about servlets, jsp, el, tags and design patterns.
This was not a stupid question. Some people are blinded by frameworks like Struts or Spring. But they don't realize what's under the hood.
 
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Howdy upul indrajith ,

Welcome to JavaRanch and SCWCD forum

Hope you got your queries answered.

Good luck for the exam
 
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