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Deepak Chopra
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Hi,
I am sunny Jain, Yesterday I cleared My SCJP 5.0 with 90%. Now I want to take SCWCD, But tell you about my problem that due to some reason I have only 25 days to clear the exam.
I have Head first servlet and JSP by K&B.
I have a very little prior experience on JSP and have never worked on Servlets. But I know core java very well.

I can study 4 hours daily. IS 100 hours of study is enough? I just want to clear the exam, score doesn't matters to me...!! Please help me..
Is the book (Head first ..) is enough..?
how difficult is to learn concept of Servlets and Jsp with no prior experience...?
 
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25 days is very unlikely to be enough time, very unlikely.
 
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Is the book (Head first ..) is enough..?

It's enough, along with this tutorial on Dynamic Attributes, and this document on patterns.
 
Deepak Chopra
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Marcus, truly saying..your line disappoint me..!!
But I don't have any other option..I have to clear the exam..
800 pages = 40 page a day + 5 days for revision
This is my plan and i have to execute it without any error..!!
after all :
Winners never quit and quitters never win

But can you please tell me..Is this book enough or not? I would really appreciate for any quick response..!!
 
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thanks Christophe !!
 
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Hi,

If you have a need and the purpose is only to pass the exam, just try it. There is no harm in it. You may pass the exam. I feel SCWCD exam is easier than SCJP.

Thanks
 
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There is potential harm in what you are attempting. You waste the money paid to take the exam and experience disappointment. The reason I gave the comment I did is because I am a qualified and experienced teacher of adults (PGCE in the UK), which includes studying how people learn and study. Also I have studied for taken, and passed the exam you are attempting.

Based on this, my best judgment is that most people would not achieve the goal you are attempting within the time frame. This does not make it impossible, an exceptional person might achieve it, but most people are not exceptional.
 
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Hi Marcus,

Thanks for your advice..!! i think you are right...!!!
I am studying for SCWCD and I am giving 200% of mine. After 25 days I will see, If I find my self ready then I will go for exam otherwise I will keep studying.

Thanks again..!!
 
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Good Lucky Sunny Jain, that sounds like a good plan. Study very hard and take some good mocks before to see if you are ready. If not cancel and re-schedule for later. I didn't mean to be negative, just practical. Let us know how it goes.
 
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Originally posted by Sunny Jain:
Hi Marcus,

Thanks for your advice..!! i think you are right...!!!
I am studying for SCWCD and I am giving 200% of mine. After 25 days I will see, If I find my self ready then I will go for exam otherwise I will keep studying.

Thanks again..!!


You can clear the exam in 25 days if you work very hard. You have to practice more mock exams. Don't expect high score, complete the HF book and start practicing mock exams. you will pass
 
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On what evidence do you base you assertion Krishna? Are you familiar with how quickly Sunny Jain learns? Did you study and pass the exam within 25 days? Have you observed many other people studying for this exam?
 
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Hi Sunny,

I'm aimig at taking the exam on April, 10th, which is also a very short time. But I can learn 6-8 hours on most days, so I hope I'll be able to do it I hope that putting a deadline will help me to stay motivated

I hope to see you often here, the SCJP forum helped a lot in my preparations

Gosia
 
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Marcus, I studied for 2 weeks and passed the exam! Your examulator helped a lot...the notes are so specific and bulleted...(except the design pattern section)...but now you say it is not possible to pass with such less preparation!!
 
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I never said it was not possible to pass with a small amount of preparation, I said it was very unlikely.

Sreerupa Basu, did you have previous experience with servlets and JSP? Gosia Wittmann, congratulations if you can study meaningfully for 6 to 8 hours a day, that makes you an exceptional human being outside the parameters of any student I have met over a decade of teaching.

I am very concerned that people make claims that result in students being overly optimistic about the amount of time they need to study. Sometimes people like to make exaggerated claims for their own success and of course in an online forum it is not possible to check these claims. However by contrast I have solid practical real world experience of how much time and study is required starting from the baseline of having passed the SCJP. There are many variables such as personal motivation, individual ability, quality of learning materials etc etc. However having said that the reality is that most people will require several months of study not several weeks.

sreerupa, thanks for your comment on my material, particularly the design pattern stuff, I may go back and try to refine that.

Marcus
 
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Marcus, I doubt I am exceptional, but it's all down to the definition of meaningful. Is coding - just trying out what I've learnt during the day meaningful learning?? Can you call going through the notes at the evening meaningful learning?? Surely I cannot concentrate 100% on acquiring new material for 6-8 hours a day, but I try to use my time as effective as I can. Also, I do not work at the moment, which means I get at least 4-5 hours of good learning in the morning when my daughter is at the daycare and additional 2 hours during the early evening, plus I usually take my notes with me for short revisions.

I am not sure if I'll manage to actually pass the exam on my wish date, the mocks should do the job and tell me when I'm ready to go for it, but just putting such a date is a good motivation factor for me, because I do work well under pressure. Plus I really do have an excellent motivation, I need a job and soon

Anyway I am going to log my learning hours for the next month, because I find this discussion really interesting. During my preparation for the SCJP I learnt a lot about the way I learn and I'm going to re-engineer my learning process to make it even more effective
 
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Sunny Jain, Please I would like to hear from you after your exam and how you scored. I do not believe it is impossible for you to achieve your goal, but I think it might be challenging. I am quite curious about how much time it would take to get a good book, study relentlessly and pass an exam in 1 month. Maybe I might just be able to pass a couple of more exams within shorter periods. Just curious anyway. But do try mock exams to check that you are ready for the exam.
All the best.
 
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thanks a lot to all for all your wishes..!! I am doing hard and have already finished 40% of the book. I am strictly going as per HFSJ, I am not looking here and there.
 
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Guys wait! Listen! I am also preparing for this with aggresive deadline .. wel my Friend who has taken up this exam, told me it is hard to fail in this. So good luck guys
 
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Hi Marcus,
It is true I'd been working with JSP when I appeared for the exam. Though servlets was not totally new, the tiny details were. I suppose, it takes time to grasp the whole enterprise architecture by heart, and it varies due to personal commitments and your abilities to remember stuff.
 
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Hi All,
Today is 22nd day after the day i posted this topic, I am so please to inform you that I have successfully finished the book and infact have
revised the first 9 chapter also, but the problem is that I am still not very much confident about the JSP. Servlet part is ok, as this is much like core java, JSP being involved with tag and html, So it is very difficult to grasp..!!
But the Objective behined all this becuase of which i was so eager to achieve the certification has been achieved already. All credit goes to HFSJ and to you all who are always there to help others. Although I dont need the certification now, But still i think that as i have prepared so I must go for it.
I think i need to spend atleast 2 weeks more to do mocks,practice programs, revision and additional study according to SCWCD 1.5.
I am planning to take the test on 15th April.
 
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Although I dont need the certification now, But still i think that as i have prepared so I must go for it.

Strike the iron while it's hot Practice a lot. Good luck.
 
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Hi Sunny,

Great dude you completed the whole book in 22 days...Really great man...
I started reading HFSJ around 3 months back still i am in 6th chapter.
I need one advice did you do hands on of the concepts you learnt from the book suppose you read about <jsp:include> tag did you practice on this??
May be the reason why i took so much time to read the book is lack of planning..i did not set any time line.


Thanks & Regards,
Ramesh Ale
 
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Yes, I do practice..side by side..!!! But not too much..i do practice only for the concepts which goes over my head..!!
It was possible because i am giving a lot of time to study..!
also got a gift from that : 3 KG wt lost + dark circle around my eyes..!!
I have been doing this since November ..first SCJP now SCWCD..!!
MY advise to you is that..don't get possessive about study..let it go by fine pace..!! but don't be too lazy..!!
I am planning to take leave after SCWCD..!!
 
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