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Trying to get Company to Reimburse training

 
Kan Rabde'
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Hi all....

I'm a 42 system analyst for a major insurance company... 18 years of mainframe coding.... 2 years on Java/Web development team.. mostly in house training and trial by fire....

I can do my job well, but need a deeper understanding of the whole distributed/web/java environment (and something substantial to put on a resume).... My goal is to SCJD.. but my path leads me thru the SCJA and then SCJP...

I was speaking to management and they are up for 'reimbursing' classes for the certification... upon getting certified, but when I mentioned books, they sorta frowned and were assuming online classes specifically geared towards SJCA ... I had initially mentioned a SUN online class, but that seems very entry level and not directly geared towards the SCJA...(Fundamentals of the Java Programming Language (WJB-110A))

Does any one know of any good online courses directly geared for the SCJA? I realize there are many good books listed on promoted on this site... and I intend to get 1.. or 2... but I have this promise of reimbursement from management.... yet I do not know what professionally presented course specifically designed for the SCJA is out there....

Any help is greatly appretiated...
KR
 
marc weber
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Originally posted by Kan Rabde':
... My goal is to SCJD.. but my path leads me thru the SCJA and then SCJP...

Welcome to JavaRanch!

Sun's certification page calls the SCJA "entry level," but this is a little misleading, because it is not required in order to take the SCJP exam (which has no prerequisites).

But the SCJP exam is required for the SCJD exam. So considering that your're already experienced and your goal is SCJD, I recommend taking SCJP first, followed by SCJD.
 
marc weber
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Originally posted by Kan Rabde':
...when I mentioned books, they sorta frowned and were assuming online classes...

The "Fundamentals" course (WJB-110A) is intended for non-programmers. So if you're going to take online courses, then you might consider starting with WJB-275A. But this is $350-675 (depending on the duration of the subscription), which is more expensive than a couple of books.
 
Dustin Johnson
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Hello there! First off, let me say that you should only pursue the SCJA if you are looking for a realistic "global" view of Java, or if you just really want to... It is a great cert to study for and get, but programming-wise it does not really assist you, in my experience. As for the UML part, though as aforementioned it would be great (if you have the money) to purchase the UML and Head Start book, those are most definitely not necessary (though they are quite helpful for knowledge). If you are tight on money, which I was at the time I took my SCJA, the UML PDF the above gentleman referenced is more than enough for everything UML related on the exam (I scored 100 percent that area and only used the PDF), and I would recommend buying a used cheaper (maybe for Java 1.4) book to study the programming aspects for SCJA, and then supplementing with online documentation for newer things such as the new for loop. Just my own thoughts, and good luck, SCJA was a lot of information and I learned many things from it!
 
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