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In Marcus Green test 1 question 16, in the answer explanation he states "Static methods cannot be overriden but they can be overloaded." I thought they could be overridden. Can anyone explain?
 
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It happens that the following compiles, but the meaning of "overriden method" doesn't apply here:
<pre>
public class StaticOverride
{
public static void foo(String s)
{
System.out.println(s);
}
}
class StaticOverride1 extends StaticOverride
{
public static void foo(String s)
{
System.out.println("In child class " + s);
}
}
</pre>
-VG
 
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Why not? It's seems to be perfect example of overriding. If you please explain it would be helpfull to me very much.. I am new to Java.
 
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Ok, it happens to be more confusing than I thought but I still think I'm right. When you override a method you generally want polymorphism to work. This doesn't happen in case of "overriding" of static methods. Try to run these two examples:
1. "Overriden" static
<pre>
public class StaticOverride
{
public static void foo(String s)
{
System.out.println(s);
}
public void bar()
{
foo("some_string");
}
public static void main(String[] a)
{
StaticOverride so = new StaticOverride1();
so.bar();
}
}
class StaticOverride1 extends StaticOverride
{
public static void foo(String s)
{
System.out.println("In child class " + s);
}
}
</pre>
2. Overriden normal
<pre>
public class StaticOverride
{
public void foo(String s)
{
System.out.println(s);
}
public void bar()
{
foo("some_string");
}
public static void main(String[] a)
{
StaticOverride so = new StaticOverride1();
so.bar();
}
}
class StaticOverride1 extends StaticOverride
{
public void foo(String s)
{
System.out.println("In child class " + s);
}
}
</pre>
After you run it 1 should output:
some_string
and 2 should print:
In child class some_string
This proves that polymorphism doesn't work for "overriden" static methods. In other words, runtime type of an object doesn't define which method will be actually invoked in case of static "overriden" methods. Hopefully I didn't confuse you and myself. Other opinions are welcome.
--VG
[This message has been edited by Vlad G (edited January 03, 2001).]
 
Randall Twede
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I guess it is just semantics. In this case what do we mean by override. Although I know we dont have polymorphism with static methods, my definition of override was that the method has the same signature as a method inherited from the base class. I guess Mr. Green has a different definition.
 
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Hi Guys,
Please see post http://www.javaranch.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/005307.html ... made when a similar discussion arose in October.
Hope it helps.
------------------
Jane
The cure for boredom is curiosity.
There is no cure for curiosity.
-- Dorothy Parker
[This message has been edited by Jane Griscti (edited January 03, 2001).]
 
Ananda Kashyap
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VG,
Thanks a lot.
You'r right.. I tried the codes and got the proof. I can say, we'r not confused.
- Anand
 
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thanks Jane. Now I remember reading that in the JLS(I think) but I had forgotten.
 
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