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What kinda thankless chickenxxxx people are you guys? You think this place is good enough for you to work/live raise your families and then you will say some pretty stupid things that will only make Americans angry?
What is it that you don't get? the whole world can rally behind this country and yet you people who actually live here have such low opinion about Everything this country does?
Christian missionaries in India are not hated as it is made to sound here. Where do you think they get all their funding/donation from...not from the west I assure you, from within the country. Unfortunately, there are uneducated fools (like some educated ones here) that can be easily influenced who do some pretty horrific things...but you have to agree that for the most part christians(and muslims) live peacefully in India.
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As a result of global population growth and advances in communication and transportation it appears that the world is physically shrinking and we're going to have to do a better job of learning to live together peacefully. Today, when cultures are no longer able to avoid contact with one another is it acceptable for a nation to allow citizens to promote ethnic, cultural or religious hatred and acts of violence? I don't think so.
Here in the United States we have a first amendment to our constitution that allows freedom of speech. The intent was to ensure that the government would not disallow public statements that contradict the policies of the government. However, some forms of speech are not protected by the first amendment. You cannot advocate the violent overthrow of the government although you can advocate legislative changes. You cannot scream "fire" in a crowded public place when no fire actually exists. You can not publicly advocate violent crimes. All of these exceptions to the first amendment were put in place to protect public safety. Similarly, would it be wrong to disallow public statements that call for death to members of a particular religion, ethnic group or race?
Here's a suggestion for the UN. Why not ask all member nations to sign an agreement to disallow public statements that call for death to members of a particular religion, ethnic group, or race? What do you think? Would this contribute to peace? Would any nation sign such an agreement? Who would end up in jail? If you were the UN representative for your country would you sign the agreement? Would you jail those that violate the agreement?
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Originally posted by sonny kher:

Christian missionaries in India are not hated as it is made to sound here.

I beg your pardon Sir/Madam but I think no one has said that they hate missionaries (difficult to convince Jason on this point )
Where do you think they get all their funding/donation from...not from the west I assure you,
And I assure you that it 90% of fund comes from outside India.

Unfortunately, there are uneducated fools (like some educated ones here)

Very true..
but you have to agree that for the most part christians(and muslims) live peacefully in India.
No doubt ....
AW what game did you play in your childhood ??

 
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Those RSS bigots who don't want to see foreign aid coming to India should also stop accpting the funds from NRI(non residential indians) from US/Canada/UK which VHP guys use for Mosque/Church destruction and constrcuting the temples in crowded traffic jammed places to display their religion.
Its now a open secret that RSS/BJP frequently accept money(mostly$) by all legal/illegal ways to promote their 75 old dream'Akhand Bharat' i.e. complete Hindustan,comprising Bangladesh,India,pakistan and Afganistan
Hats of to RSS
 
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Rahul Rege, cant you see ? we are playing here our childhood games ..
Join us OR leave us
Chor- Sipahi in intervals till class 5th.
Aaies- Paies upto class 10th in late evenings when there was power cut.
Now I feel that TV has taken free from these 21st Centuary children. They dont have free time at all.
 
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Originally posted by Dave Vick:


There is no 'befooling', if you are trying to get someone to convert to your religion you are going to tell them your beliefs and why you think they are right. You're not fooling anyone, you trying to convince them of something.
[QB]OK,
It is right that no one has a right to impose their own religion on others...
I am narrating a small incident which happened in the town of madurai where there are many couples in which husband is a christian and wife is a hindu or otherwise....typically all of the christians are converted....
it so happened, an old man who was a hindu, was in finacial troubles, the village clergy comes to him on fine day and tells him see, "if you believe in christ all your troubles will be over"...saying so the clergy returns on the second day and gives the old man the money he needs and coaxes him to adopt christianity, and he succeeeds in it...on the day of baptism the clergy asks the old man "hey old man now you donot have any troubles do you?...and this all happened bcos you ahve accepted christ"...the poor old man obliges and says innocently "yes sir i have accepted christ and this is all the grace of lord krishna"...
imagine the fate of poor clergyman.....
but...the next generations of the old man are all into christaianity as their father had accepted it....this is the trick some of the missionaries whose main aim is not to serve but to convert...
even though i apprrecaite the clergy's humanity in helping the old man...the motive behind was not actuallly to serve but some thing else....but again ,here is a real catch, no hindu had come forward to help the old man which is very pathetic and shows the nonchallant attitude of hindus...which needs a catharsis....
there are so many organizations in india on the name of serving poor people and propagate their own religion...my opinion is proppagate religion for the sake of religion...help people for the sake of help..if you mix these two both of them get adultrated.....

 
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Nobody was forcing that old man to teach his children Christianity. Nobody was forcing the children to stay Christian.
If that is how some people are getting convinced to SAY that they are Christian, then that is a sad thing. It is almost the opposite of what the Bible teaches.
In the bible it teaches that being poor is not a bad thing. Being rich is not bad either - it just makes it much more difficult to keep your priorities in line. The bible teaches that financial problems are really not an issue, as long as you have your heart and soul aligned correctly material matters are just not important.
There are alot of passages that talk about good Christians that have basically no money. Converting to Christians didn't make them any better off financially.
 
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Chrisitians believe that Jesus is the way to heaven. Should a missionary not share his beleifs because it offends some Hindus?


I dont know why you all are in wrong impression that we think that there is something wrong with chritianity or missionary.
Here we also know what Jesus has said and what missionary should do.
<will not say anything else>
mum
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Originally posted by Ravish Kumar:

I dont know why you all are in wrong impression that we think that there is something wrong with chritianity or missionary.
</will not say anything else>


You're kidding, right? :roll:
Perhaps you need to re-read this thread.
 
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Originally posted by Cindy Glass:
Converting to Christians didn't make them any better off financially.[/QB]


True, if you are living in a western country. But if you like in a country like in India or Africa, it makes lots of difference. Reason?? Have you ever thought about why all the poor people getting help from missionaries are christians?? You can say they are not converting people forcefully. But, if that is true, then how come all are christians? :roll: Do they help christians only??? Look at your local TV ad. on missionaries. Why do they show poor childrens with christian sounding names?? ("look at poor maria who dont even have chappals/slippers blah blah..").
I grown up near a christan school and a church. I know what they did to poor people who wanted a job in those 2 places. Even some of my neighbours changed the school of their kids after sometime (Do you want me to tell you why??)
I know they are doing great service to poor people. But why do they hell bend on converting them? You may ask what the heck if some people convert to some other religion. Thanks, we already have enough religious problem in India. We dont want to add anymore. If anyone want to convert to another religion with full heart, no one is going to stop them in India. After all, we, the Hindu Indians were much tolerant people for more than 3000 years.
And the so called "secular" persons in India, Go and read your country's History book. Because, people like you, incidents like gujarat will happen again and again and you and your younger generation will also get affected even after 1000 years. Be happy and sleep well. I hope you wouldnt call people who goes to temple as "Hindu fundamentalist" or "Hindu fanatics". not yet hah??
And one last point, Do ,the so called "secular" people , ever heard about a word "Kafir"??
 
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Check this site..http://www.hvk.org/articles/0901/235.html

All four of them were kidnapped, over two years ago, in August 1999. By a leading purveyor of terrorism in Tripura the National Liberation Front of Tripura. The Indian intelligence knows that the American-powered Baptist Church, which keeps spreading the poison of separatism among the Tribals of North East, fully backs this terrorist outfit. :roll:


I will dig in more information about how the missionaries help the NorthEast terrorists and post the link here.
 
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Originally posted by Sankar Subbiah:
I will dig in more information about how the missionaries help the NorthEast terrorists and post the link here.


And here is proof of alien children in India. It's a link on the Internet, it must be true, right? :roll:
 
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Originally posted by Jason Menard:

And here is proof of alien children in India. It's a link on the Internet, it must be true, right? :roll:


So, what is your point? Whatever is there in the internet is junk???
 
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wow.. here is a junk from BBC :roll:
'Church backing Tripura rebels'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/717775.stm
 
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Originally posted by Sankar Subbiah:
wow.. here is a junk from BBC :roll:
'Church backing Tripura rebels'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/717775.stm


Somewhere you have a point. This is the state Baptist church, not some group of foreign missionaries. The church is own and operated by Indians. Although your bringing this up does point out that your bigotry is towards Christianity as a whole, not just the foreign missionaries. But let's look at a quote from the article:

The government in India's north-eastern state of Tripura says it has evidence that the state's Baptist Church is involved in backing separatist rebels.


The foreign sources I see refer to them as "separatists" and "rebels", not "terrorists". But whatever, I'm not really all that interested. So what is your point... that killing missionaries is a good thing? That foreign missionaries will spell the end of Hinduism? That you really don't care one bit for poor people, you just want to keep your position in society? What are you trying to get at?
For your reading enjoyment, another link from the BBC: Family abducted by alien cruiser.
 
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This is refreshing.. Atleast you indirectly agree that there can be some non junk informations in the net. BTW, thanks for the junk link you posted at the end of your message.

This is the state Baptist church


hmm.. what you are trying to say? This church is run by the state government? Or Missionaries will not work under church? Or here they are refering a single church (building??)?The Baptist Church of Tripura was initially set up by missionaries from New Zealand 60 years ago. It's main aim was to help poor people and covert them to chiristianity. Before you post about how couple of missionaries getting killed, see what the church backed terrorists doing to poor HINDU people.
http://www.sulekha.com/articledesc.asp?cid=195857

The foreign sources I see refer to them as "separatists" and "rebels", not "terrorists".


Wow.. nice one to pick from that site. True, As for them, they are rebels and separatists, because they are killing hindus only. They have not yet killed one westerner. Well.. for them, even the Kashmiri terrorists are rebels only eventhough they kill thousands of innocents every year and forced nearly a million hindus out of their homeland. Afgans are rebels and freedom fighters until they turned against their very own creators. The rest is history. There are several sources out there in the net about what the Chruch backed terrorists are doing to poor hindus in the northeastern states of India. I am not justifying any killings, but I am trying to point out what missionaries are doing to other religious people.

that killing missionaries is a good thing? That foreign missionaries will spell the end of Hinduism? That you really don't care one bit for poor people, you just want to keep your position in society? What are you trying to get at?


Did I ever say that I am against all missionaries and I am against helping poor people? Where in my post I said I am against Christianity? Oh.. I forgot that I pointed out what the terriorist backing chruch is doing. So, I shouldnt say anything about Churches even if they back terriorists. If I do I will be branded as anti christianity person :roll: . Man, you are worse than our babus in Delhi . Read my posts carefully to see what I am trying to point to.
 
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Oooooooh, please explain things to me, are all of you talking about India, Russia or Isreal? By the way, where is Kashmir?
 
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Dear Shankar,
I think you are stretching truth a bit too much when you say:
"After all, we, the Hindu Indians were much tolerant people for more than 3000 years"
All religions have black spots and Hinduism is no exception! Caste problem is bad thing all those of us have spent years in India are well aware how it is still prevalent in most of the rural areas. Christian churches offered a way out for people who felt marginalised by the system. same thing happened over 500 to 900 years back when people from lowers castes converted to Islam in India.
So toleration of Hinduism is a myth many of us hold but not always supported by facts.
 
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Originally posted by aniruddha mukhopadhyay:
Dear Shankar,
I think you are stretching truth a bit too much when you say:
"After all, we, the Hindu Indians were much tolerant people for more than 3000 years"
All religions have black spots and Hinduism is no exception! Caste problem is bad thing all those of us have spent years in India are well aware how it is still prevalent in most of the rural areas. Christian churches offered a way out for people who felt marginalised by the system. same thing happened over 500 to 900 years back when people from lowers castes converted to Islam in India.
So toleration of Hinduism is a myth many of us hold but not always supported by facts.


aniruddha, Yes I do agree that we have our own problems. No religion is holy cow and no socity is fully tolerant to others. castism is evil. I agree that. But, for facts, look around to see how tolerant the Hindu SOCITY (Do Hinduism say anything about castism and untouchablity??? I hope you know why there is "ism" in Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism and Buddhism) was for the past 3000 years and please read our History. It never turned their back to anyone who asked for help. We are adressing the evil castism. I said more tolerant, because I know the Hindu SOCITY didnt treat the low caste people well. But overall, it is not a myth to say Hindu Socity was/is more tolerent than any other socity and Religion. Have you seen this much conversion in any other religion? We are tolerant people for 3000 years and we still say if you like other faiths we welcome you to convert to that faith. But we are against the forced conversion. You are from India. Tell me, Dont you think the missionaries and churches in India forcing people to convert to Christianity to get benefit from them?
PS : Are you from Bharat-Rakshak?
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Dear Sankar,
What's Bharat-Rakshak?
I agree with of your statement:
"We are adressing the evil castism. " - you imply that casteism is evil and I think your are dead right.
But unfortunately I can't say that all of us Hindus are really "addressing" it. Specially the recent trend has been towards a different direction. There is more talk about conversions than about reform of our social practices. I think it is more case "tempting" people convert to Christianity than of "forcing".
Something like tempting you with a salary hike and you change jobs - tempt you with green card and you change your citizenship. But its all part life and you should not pass judgement on somebody elses choice in life.
 
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Originally posted by Cindy Glass:
Nobody was forcing that old man to teach his children Christianity. Nobody was forcing the children to stay Christian.
There are alot of passages that talk about good Christians that have basically no money. Converting to Christians didn't make them any better off financially.


what i wanted to emphasise by giving that example the old man whogot converted was not AT ALL interested in christ and was taken into that line after he was given money, that is bad...give him money, but why should you put the man into moral obligation of getting converted , it is an emotional blackmail, i feel...
 
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Originally posted by Cindy Glass:

You're kidding, right? :roll:
Perhaps you need to re-read this thread.


Now I am not participating in this thread, but you sure re-read it.
Sometimes I dont joke.
OR
thats why you are thrying to save all these missionaries??
If this is so then I would like to tell you, no Hindustani hates Christians or missioanries.
(read Hindustani as Indian)
Jason, how many times will you repeat ONE news of murder of a missionary ?? (I am sure you will give 3 links which will prove that in last 10 yrs there were 3 such cases)
And How many times all Hindustanis will condenmn it.
I am ready to give you written apology.
will you say that "The ONLY way to God" is wrong and should not be written by missionaries.
But looks like cursing is better than live in love and peace.
AW even I cant gaurantee, such incidences wont be repeated but still I am 100% sure that 99% indians will condemn it.
Even here there are Indians who think its good only because some poor is getting good life. NOT because that poor has faith in christianity.
Is conversion is matter of FAITH or GOOD LIFE ?? forget forced conversion cause till there is no gun on your head it cant be forced.
I read some where .. he was forced to sell his wife?? Someone must have put gun on his forehead else it cant be forced
why the hell in this world I read this thread...
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Originally posted by Cindy Glass:
Nobody was forcing that old man to teach his children Christianity. Nobody was forcing the children to stay Christian.


I dont know about your society, but here in India its very difficult for a son to leave his religion.
Second thing, even if he gets a chance to change, very rare is that he will do it because of faith.
Why cant you use your mind. Why someone would like to change a religion ???
Because of FAITH.... its funny, ridiculous.
Let us say, I have faith in Bible, why should I get converted?
I think there is problem with me, not you guys.
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And I am happy with my that problem
 
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Originally posted by Ravish Kumar:

Jason, how many times will you repeat ONE news of murder of a missionary ?? (I am sure you will give 3 links which will prove that in last 10 yrs there were 3 such cases)


If you had read the links I have posted in this thread you will see that they refer to many different instances. There is one case that I find particularly barbaric, but they are all pretty horrible.
If it helps some of you feel better about yourselves or helps make you feel somehow superior to pretend that you live in a "secular" and "tolerant" society where people are free to make their own choices, by all means continue humoring yourselves. Just don't be surprised if maybe there are some of us who have different definitions for "secular", "tolerant", and "freedom of choice".
 
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Originally posted by Jason Menard:

If it helps some of you feel better about yourselves or helps make you feel somehow superior to pretend that you live in a "secular" and "tolerant" society where people are free to make their own choices, by all means continue humoring yourselves. Just don't be surprised if maybe there are some of us who have different definitions for "secular", "tolerant", and "freedom of choice".


Jason, I do agree with you atleast in this part.. yes, you guys have different definitions for "secular", "tolerant", and "freedom of choice" Tell me, where are you from?
I think I missed the good part of this dicussion.
 
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Originally posted by aniruddha mukhopadhyay:
What's Bharat-Rakshak?


www.bharat-rakshak.com .. It is an unofficial Indian Military site and they have pretty good forum . I will ask all the indians to go and check the forum once in a week atleast. It will enlighten them what is going in and around our country. I saw a person posting messeages similar to your name (I was not sure about the last name)
Regarding the other part of your message, please explain it clearly.
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Why?
becasue we respect our parents and their religion and this is our one way of showing respect.
Why?
because we think that all religions are same.
And how do you know that?
becasue I live here

Because they think their religion is wrong, or evil, or stupid. And they think another religion is right, or good, or intelligent.
I like you TP
Said by a man who apparently has never had faith in anything.
Will you please elaborate FAITH :confuse:

Because if you believe that the Bible is correct then you would want to join a community of people who believe the same thing.
But I found lot of things wrong in that also.
And I believe who believe in one community of people they are narrow minded and cant see beyond a book written by some man 2000 yrs back.

I think there is problem with me, not you guys.

(let's be nice boys - Cindy)
oopss.... when I clicked message Cindy was not here.
AW I have no problem.
Its like OBL is terrorist for you and you are terrorist for them.
So its always two way

AW I came to post this text
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�All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age.� (Matthew 28:18-20)
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I am laughing
Are you too ??
 
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Well . . . noooo
 
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Secular means not concerned with the religious world. A secular government makes decisions without an overt concern for the religion of the people living under that goverment. A secular government never makes decisions that favor one religion over another.

Tolerant means that you are willing to accept (and even encourage) a diversity of beliefs.
Freedom of choice means that you support the right of people to make their own choices.
Patrick Henry once said (although some make the claim that it was said first by Voltaire), "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." That is what what freedom of choice and tolerance really come down to. I may disagree with you. I may think you are wrong to make the choices you have made. But they are your choices and society must protect you from those who would take those choices away from you.


Ok I got that.. What is your point? Indian doesnt follow what is there in dictionary and western people follow it? Nobody said anything about you (But I think , on the other hand, you are the one say other peoples view on this topic as stupid and all). Nice quote from Patrick Henry (Who is that gentleman anyway).
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:

Because they think their religion is wrong, or evil, or stupid. And they think another religion is right, or good, or intelligent.


I would have closed the thread instead of replying like this to a post by a person has never had faith in anything
AW your freedom's definition permits you to curse other religion.
Never mind it just shows your state of mind.
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I can reply your post line by line. But ,before that, let me hear your view on the conversion. I think I already made my point on this topic.


Its like OBL is terrorist for you and you are terrorist for them.


I like that..
 
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Originally posted by sonny kher:
What kinda thankless chickenxxxx people are you guys? You think this place is good enough for you to work/live raise your families and then you will say some pretty stupid things that will only make Americans angry?
What is it that you don't get? the whole world can rally behind this country and yet you people who actually live here have such low opinion about Everything this country does?
[ October 20, 2002: Message edited by: Thomas Paul ]



Sorry Mr Sonny Kher for the late response. BTW in youre an ABCD I can excuse you because of reasons known even to you.
Living in this country does not mean I have to Bend on my knees for everyone . No favours were done in any case ....as i have already said. As for Upsetting Americans....I dont care if someone is upset over what I say .......beacuase if you dont know its a free country . This thread was just about posting opinions . I posted Mine ....Someone disagreed.....Fair Enough......I dont agree completely with what they say.
Too bad for you too....Go ahead and Boot lick every person you see because you live in their country and cannot think logically about what the thread was all about.
And Mr Sonny Kher ..No one in this thread has said that they have a low opinion about everything in this country . Perhaps you should read the thread before posting useless statements which prove your ignorance and your eagerness to jump into a conversation you know nothing of.
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Originally posted by Sankar Subbiah:
Ok I got that.. What is your point?


I would say the point is that all evidence indicates your secularism is a myth, and that many of you are neither tolerant nor do you believe in freedom of choice for any but yourselves and those who agree with you.
 
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Someone claimed that India was secular, tolerant, and gave freedom of choice. Someone else wanted to know what those things meant. All I did was provide the definition of those words/phrases.

Second time correcting...
India is secular, tolerant(to the limit, cross the limit at your own risk ), and gives freedom of choice if it is a choice based on his concious mind not influenced by any materialistic things.(trying to elaborate FORCED word.)
And your freedom ends where my nose begins.

Look at the quote again. It doesn't say that I respect what you say. It doesn't say that I won't tell you that you are a fool when you act the fool. What it says is that you have the right to be a fool just as I have a right to tell you that you are one. Freedom is a really wonderful thing.
It means that even though I don't like what you say I can't run out and have you arrested. In fact that is what Patrick Henry is saying. No matter how stupid the thing you say is, I would support your right to say it.

you wnat to say that every fool has a right to stick to his argument
Now believe me it applies on all human (don't know about you)
 
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Originally posted by Jason Menard:

I would say the point is that all evidence indicates your secularism is a myth, and that many of you are neither tolerant nor do you believe in freedom of choice for any but yourselves and those who agree with you.


So, you point out some incident happend in my Country and generalize whole socity is like that?? Cool.. Have you heard about "racism" and the dudes with white mask (Man those guys are really scary.. where is the scary image..). I can point you lot of sources about the so called secular, freedom loving westerners behaviour against the minorities. In the same context, should I say western socity is much worse when it comes to freedom of choice and secular nature???
 
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
they become Christians because someone gives them $50,


What is the price of Apple in US ??
 
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Initially posted by Sankar
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Tell me, Dont you think the missionaries and churches in India forcing people to convert to Christianity to get benefit from them?
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Why couldn't RSS/VHP monks try to reconvert them to Hindus? After all, its their govt, right from Prime minister,Home minister ,everybody is proud to be member of RSS.Isn't it? That means conversion is not forceful.
Also why mainstream (Secular and not published by RSS!!)print media doesn't cover these issues,if conversion is really focred one?or you mean to say , they too are funded by churches?
 
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Originally posted by <rahul rege>:


Good night ... have a nice sleep.
 
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Originally posted by Sankar Subbiah:
So, you point out some incident happend in my Country and generalize whole socity is like that??


No, I am basing that in part on the words of most of your countrymen who are participating in this thread. You yourselves indicate that you are representative of the general feeling in your country. The many incidents I have pointed out only serve as highlights. I of course hope that in fact some of you here are not representative of the majority of your population and that despite some evidence to the country, most of you do in fact embrace these values, as most of your former countrymen who are now Americans seem to.
 
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Originally posted by <rahul rege>:
[QB]Initially posted by Sankar
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Tell me, Dont you think the missionaries and churches in India forcing people to convert to Christianity to get benefit from them?
}
Why couldn't RSS/VHP monks try to reconvert them to Hindus? After all, its their govt, right from Prime minister,Home minister ,everybody is proud to be member of RSS.Isn't it? That means conversion is not forceful.


I will answer this question on behalf of RSS/VHP.
We are against forced conversion . That'z why.


Also why mainstream (Secular and not published by RSS!!)print media doesn't cover these issues,if conversion is really focred one?or you mean to say , they too are funded by churches?


That is the problem my friend. They think secularism means beating the majority people and appeasing the minority. Ok if you want more reasons.
1. Circulation - Christians are also subscribers, they are afraid to lose Christians subscribers.
2. You know about our babus in Delhi. If any paper tries to say anything against minority people, even if there is truth, do you know what would be the reaction? This is what we call "pseudo secularism"
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